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Title: logging in as administrator
Post by: LugwidVanB on July 08, 2009, 15:01 hrs
Can anyone tell me specifically how to log on to xp as an administrator?
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: pat on July 08, 2009, 20:58 hrs
Check this page from MS.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/tips/advanced/adminaccount.mspx
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: LugwidVanB on July 09, 2009, 11:22 hrs
I created a new account, called Admin, using a password so as to be able to dl and install programs such as itunes. It had absolutely no effect. I dl itunes, click run, and box come up saying Unknown Publisher. Are you kidding microcrap, oops, microsoft? Apple is an unknown to you? I click run anyway and the box disappears along with the dl connection.
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: pat on July 09, 2009, 18:44 hrs
All I can think of is there must be something else going on here, I've downloaded and installed itunes numerous times on systems with XP on them. Are you getting the program file straight from Apple?

I noticed in your other thread you mentioned saving the file to a temp file, not sure what you mean by that.

I always save file/program downloads to a new folder that I name with the item description in my downloads folder. I then run the installer from that folder.
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: LugwidVanB on July 09, 2009, 19:43 hrs
Yes, I get the program direct from apple. I named a folder on the c drive 'temp' so I had a folder to dl all programs as a convenience. I've been doing that for a long time.

I found a site with previous versions of itunes. I dl several incl the earliest one but none would dl. Somebody suggested service pak 3 might be a problem. This is very wierd.
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: LugwidVanB on July 09, 2009, 19:57 hrs
It seems it might be a security problem. I have avg free. Is there a way to completely disable it temporarily?

Also, how about temporarily disabling firewalls? Esp the windows xp firewall. Thanks
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: Bill on July 10, 2009, 07:23 hrs
Before you disable AVG, I would turn off the XP security and then retry the d/l.  You can get to the XP security settings in the Control Panel and the Security Center folder.

I also use AVG Free and the Zone Alarm  firewall (also free) and never the XP firewall.  While I have not tried iTunes, I've also never had a d/l problem with these 2 programs.

Bill
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: LugwidVanB on July 10, 2009, 13:31 hrs
I tried to turn off the windows firewall. On the Windows Firewall box it says it is off. On the WIndows Sec Ctr box it says it is on, even though I rebooted after turning it off on the firewall box. I opened in the Admin account which requires a pw. Same result, it dl but says Unknown Publisher.
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: Bill on July 10, 2009, 13:35 hrs
In my version of XP(Pro), in the Security Center there is an option to turn it off.  I used that option.

Bill
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: LugwidVanB on July 10, 2009, 16:02 hrs
In windows security center, the top panel has the firewall icon and a green button that says On. Clicking either only results in a drop down message that says: NVIADIA firewall is currently on. A firewall helps protect etc etc.

Clicking the On button won't give the option of turning it off. I have to click the windows firewall at the bottom of the screen to get another box that gives you the option of checking the on or off option.

Also, is it possible the NVIADIA firewall is causing problems? Thanks
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: Bill on July 10, 2009, 16:17 hrs
You have something else running. 
#
The NVIDIA Firewall is a native hardware-optimized solution and an integrated component of NVIDIA nForce MCPs with NVIDIA Gigabit Ethernet. ...
www.nvidia.com/object/security.html
#  from google.

Bill


Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: Mark H on July 10, 2009, 16:48 hrs
Quote from: LugwidVanB on July 09, 2009, 19:43 hrs
Somebody suggested service pak 3 might be a problem. This is very wierd.

I run XP with SP 3 and installed itunes with no problems. I also have itunes installed on a 32 bit Vista installation and a 64 bit Vista installation. No problems on any of my platforms installing itunes.

I would guess there is a problem with your XP installation, so maybe you can do a repair of it before trying to install itunes again. It could also be another program causing problems. Have you scanned for viruses and spyware?

Mark H
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: LugwidVanB on July 10, 2009, 17:58 hrs
The NVIDIA Firewall is a native hardware-optimized solution and an integrated component of NVIDIA nForce MCPs with NVIDIA Gigabit Ethernet. ...
www.nvidia.com/object/security.html
#  from google.

Okay, so should it be disabled and how is that done. I have no experience with the card. Thanks
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: LugwidVanB on July 10, 2009, 18:01 hrs
I would guess there is a problem with your XP installation, so maybe you can do a repair of it before trying to install itunes again. It could also be another program causing problems. Have you scanned for viruses and spyware?

I only have avg which says it is running antivirus and spyware detection as well as other programs. How do you repair xp? Thanks
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: LugwidVanB on July 10, 2009, 18:29 hrs
I found this but it looks complicated and a little scary.

http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: scuzzy on July 11, 2009, 00:36 hrs
Do you have the XP installation disc? You might want to do your own clean install so that you get get all these problems behind you.
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: Bill on July 11, 2009, 07:12 hrs
Before you try a repair or reinstall of XP....  The Nvidia firewall is not part of Windows, it is built into the hardware of your machine.

If you follow the link I provided above, there is a users guide on the Nvidia site for the firewall.  You should check in the Programs section of the Start menu on your system for a folder named Nvidia Corporation.  If it's there, click on it and it should bring up the Nvidia ActiveArmor user interface manager.  There are options under the Basic Settings tab to turn off the firewall. The user guide provides step by step directions.

Bill
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: LugwidVanB on July 11, 2009, 17:57 hrs
I disabled the NVIDIA firewall and windows firewall. Exact same result. The thing is saying no so fast it must be something in xp that is doing this.
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: LugwidVanB on July 12, 2009, 04:20 hrs
I just bought this computer used from a guy who said he wiped the hd clean and reinstalled xp. It is a reinstallation cd from dell and says for distribution only with a dell computer. It must be old because the copyright dates from m-soft are 2001
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: Bill on July 12, 2009, 07:50 hrs
I have run out of ideas at the moment.  But if you haven't already done so, turn one of the firewalls back on.

Bill
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: LugwidVanB on July 12, 2009, 08:59 hrs
Thanks Bill. I turned them both back on. So you think the xp dell copy is okay? I noticed you can get an xp professional off craigslist for around $25-$30.
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: scuzzy on July 12, 2009, 12:36 hrs
Is this the computer you're referring to?:

Quote
I finally bit the bullet and got rid of my win98 clunker, buying a used amd athlon 64 processor, asus mb, 160gig hd, 1 gig ram and more for $225. It is working fine so far but I can�t copy my photos on the old computer.

If so you have an illegal installation that may or may not be properly setup. If you are able to purchase a legitimate copy of Win XP for $25 - $30, then go for it. But make sure that it is an original disc with the original license. An original Windows XP disc will have a mirror-like label that has a 3D look.

An OEM license is fine, as long as it's not restricted such as those that are specifically made for Dell. I myself am running an OEM license on my main system.

On a side note - it's normally a bad idea to run two software firewalls at the same time as they will conflict with each other.
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: scuzzy on July 12, 2009, 13:02 hrs
I forgot to mention:

If the WinXP license was already used, then you will have to call Microsoft when you attempt to activate it. You'll have to tell them that the license is not being used on any other computer, and hopefully they will approve the license for use on your computer.

I've had to call Microsoft three or four times over the years for this same issue, and I've never had a problem.
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: LugwidVanB on July 12, 2009, 17:08 hrs
Thanks. I just talked with a guy who has the xp pro for sale for $45. It is sealed, COA, OEM, not academic. If its still available Wed I will likely buy it. Is this a good deal? I will make shre the box has never been opened.
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: scuzzy on July 12, 2009, 17:39 hrs
That's an outstanding deal.
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: LugwidVanB on July 15, 2009, 11:31 hrs
I found another one, never been opened, for $35. Got it today. I want to start from scratch, completely format the c disk since I have the Seagate external hard drive that is backing everything up. So I was told to simply insert the new xp disk and go from there and it will format and install a new copy of xp. Is this correct and are there any other instructions, esp if there is trouble. Thanks.
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: pat on July 15, 2009, 14:40 hrs
You may find looking through this guide from the Black Viper web site helpful.
http://www.blackviper.com/Articles/OS/InstallXPHome/installxphome1.htm

Once you get up and running make sure you get all the windows updates.
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: LugwidVanB on July 15, 2009, 16:31 hrs
Thanks Pat. I saw this from an earlier thread and have it bookmarked. It's a great step by step install complete with screens.

Tom
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: pat on July 15, 2009, 20:20 hrs
Indeed, depending on how much time you want to spend with it, you could do it a couple of times. Back when I was sorting out how to do some of these things, I'd just go through it a few times with different configurations just to get a feel for it.
Title: Re: logging in as administrator
Post by: Mark H on July 15, 2009, 23:11 hrs
Quote from: pat on July 15, 2009, 20:20 hrs
Indeed, depending on how much time you want to spend with it, you could do it a couple of times. Back when I was sorting out how to do some of these things, I'd just go through it a few times with different configurations just to get a feel for it.

The price of being an early adopter of software as I discover evertime I upgrade early.

Mark H