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[BlueIce]

Xp installed and looks great no probs so far easy install





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[n/a]

Can you get an MSDOS prompt?



 

[BlueIce]

If your asking if you can boot to a command prompt I havent tried yet

but there is a command prompt in windows like in win2k



Its a mix of win2k and 98 with more of the win2k about it

if i needed to get to a command prompt I know in win2k i can get there by booting off of the cd and going through a couple menus



XP just like 2k supports NTFS as Well as FAT32

My friend upgraded on his computer and I installed on another partittion on my computer



There is lots of new eye candy but its all customizable It is a whole new deal



Just like when I was running win3.11 and got win95







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[Joanie]

Mornin Blue Ice,



Thanks for the report. I am very interested in XP, mostly because I would like to get rid of ME. Have you read anything about the installation of XP over ME. I do not need a business OS since I am only using it for home use.



Joanie



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[BlueIce]

I am evaluating WINXP Pro

There will be a home version as well as the pro

And as far as over Win me shouldnt be any problems my friend upgraded from 98





What I have seen so far it is like win2k pro but unlike any O/S

I have ever seen a much more 3D feel to menus and icons





http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/default.asp



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[scuzzy]

Thanks for letting us in on this, BlueIce. I'm sort of torn, here. I just installed Win2K Professional on my Dell, and I love it. It kills me that I waited so long to try it, as it is infinitely superior to Windows 98. Stupid, stupid, stupid. I should have upgraded to Win2K Pro when it first came out.



As for Windows XP, I'm more interested in the professional version vs. home. I know it will cost more, but I got a feeling it will be money well spent. However, I'm not too sure I want XP until Microsoft ditches Windows Product Activation (WPA). If Microsoft is determined to hang on to WPA, then I probably won't bother upgrading. Time will tell. Until then, you'll have to fight if you want to take Win2K Pro away from me.



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Alex Garcia

[BlueIce]

Scuzzy I have a win2k msconfig if ya want it



WinXP comes with it already

msconfig rules





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[BlueIce]

I would like to give you an update

let me remind that my evaluation version is not the final



But I have noticed some issues with games and drivers

Irq problems for a friend of mine but that was a swift fix



Older systems may have minor issues as well a bios upgrade may be needed on some systems



Other than that it handles the systems resources just like win2k and is faster than 98 or 2k



Networking seems to be a bit of a trick as well on my peer to peer



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[BlueIce]

HEADS UP FOLKS



Glide and OpenGL no longer work with 3dfx drivers in WinXP



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[scuzzy]

BlueIce,



Did you install a dual boot configuration? Was it even an option? I am considering the possibility of giving it a try over the weekend, since it's time to clean my Dell out once more. I was planning on removing my dual boot and going to all Win2k Pro. But...



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Alex Garcia

[Neon]

I think I read that OpenGL is not supported in WinXP at all. MS wants us to use DirectX. Of course.



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[BlueIce]

Yes I am running dual boot on my rig win2k and winxp no problems there just like setting up a dual boot with 98 and win2k very easy



From all that i have found neon your right no opengl or glide not supported

I was tired with that poast last night, now when i try to read it doesnt make much sense last night it almost did  



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Edited by - BlueIce on Aug 31 2001  8:04:14 PM

[scuzzy]

Well, I signed up for a download, so we'll see. By chance does it come with Space Cadet 3D Pinball? That's about the only computer game that I actually enjoy.



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Alex Garcia

[BlueIce]

Yeppers



Comes with a couple new games but your pinball is there



Be forewarned that if you have a dialup connection 24 or more hours to download

500 megs

with T1 40 min

with T3 2 min



You will need a cdburning program to extract files from the ISO image scuzzy





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[scuzzy]

I do have broadband, along with a CD burner. I read at the site that the download takes 5 hours with a DSL connection. Exactly how big is the stupid file? Geez.



What kind of connection do you have, and how long did it take the file to download?



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Alex Garcia

[BlueIce]

500 megs or better



I borrowed a T1 so it took about 40 min



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[scuzzy]

511,680,512 bytes to be exact.



I downloaded the WinXP Professional file a little while ago, and I was surprised that it took 21 mins, 5 secs, on my broadband connection. Dang that's slow. I noticed that the download would have only taken 1 min, 49 secs, on a T3 connection. I wonder if Sprint Wireless Broadband has one of those available.



Anyway, I'll look at installing WinXP Pro on a second partition sometime over the weekend.



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Alex Garcia

[n/a]

First you pick up a super CD burner for pocket lint, now you're complaining about a 500 meg download in less than half an hour.



You're really trying to depress me, aren't you.



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[BlueIce]

Sounds like somebody has the hook up Bear



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[scuzzy]

Bear,



I'm sorry to depress you. Actually, I was pleasantly surprised that the download went so quick. I started it at about 8 p.m. last night, when my connection is typically bogged down compared to my connection at 6 or 7 a.m., when it's typically very fast.



What really caught my attention was how fast I could expect a 500MB download with a T3 connection running at 80% capacity. 1 minute, 49 seconds. Wow! I believe a T3 connects at 36Mbps (look again, that's "Mbps" not "Kbps"). Just think - years from now that will be considered "painfully" slow.



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Alex Garcia

[pat]

What an ironic time to read this poast, as I sit here writing out my payment to ATT Broadband. Of course they offer no broadbands to our area just tv.

I have been looking at satellite again. Combination pc/tv. If you just had to pay for the service and got all the equipment included. That would be ok. You would still pay a bit more. When you figure buying the dishes. Yeah, and you figure all those high tech gadgets you got to have to make it work, phew. I would also have to put up a antenna for local stations.

Heck, you could build a computer with all the good stuff . I'm going to keep an eye on that satellite stuff, I think them prices are going to be coming down.



In the meantime I'll just be content with Scuzzy's reports from the future.

A real  time traveler, that one.  



Pat



 

[n/a]

Uh huh, yeah, thanks. Yep, that made me feel better. Whee.



And to think, I thought 'painfully slow' was 2.2 Kbps.





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[scuzzy]

Here's a must-read article I found through PC911: The Gazette - Microsoft Windows XP. You'll find some *excellent* information there that will really open your eyes.



I'll probably attempt a dual boot with Win2k and WinXP sometime tomorrow evening. We'll see how it goes.



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Alex Garcia

[John]

Scuzzy, That was a real eye opener. I have read as many reviews of XP as I could find in preperatiion of or in consideration of upgrading OS's. Thank you for poasting it.



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John

[BlueIce]

Scuzzy



Careful with your dual boot I have been playing in XP so much and didnt relize

that when I installed XP on my D drive my win2k on C drive

Had been changed a little nothing big just lost Favorites,Email, address book

and Irq's went out for dinner too



I hope you got the final build that would be so cool





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[scuzzy]

I won't go into all the details, but I chose to clean install Windows XP Pro as the *only* operating system. So far, I'm impressed. It is rock-solid, and loaded with great features. I hate to say this, but I think Microsoft finally got it right.



I still don't like the Windows Product Activation, although I have a clearer understanding that it's not the threat that some believe it to be. However, I can now see that it may be a problem for people who are constantly updating hardware.



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Alex Garcia

[pat]

Scuzzy,

Now that you have XP and that new digital camera. I would appreciate hearing how well XP supports digital imaging. I read somewhere they were going to make a lot of improvements in that area.

Thanks

Pat



 

[scuzzy]

I'll see what I can do. Don't forget that the camera is for work, and my home computer is the one that has WinXP installed. We're still running NT4 at work.



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Alex Garcia

[BlueIce]

Scuzzy what build did ya get?



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[scuzzy]

Build 2526



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Alex Garcia