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Pan's Labyrinth

Started by pat, March 04, 2007, 14:41 hrs

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pat

Went to see Pan�s Labyrinth the other day.

Wow, this is one dark and disturbing movie. But then again, it was also a very dark and disturbing time in history, set in Spain in 1944. Definitely not for kids this fairy tale is purely for the older set. The graphics, music and costumes are superb and it�s hard not to be drawn into the realism of the movie.

I don�t want to get into it too much in case anyone wants to go see it, but it�s one of the most original movies I�ve seen in a long time. I really enjoyed it and would recommend seeing it.
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Ace

I thought you had mispelled "Pat's Labyrinth"...  I was wondering why you'd bother to build one of those.

Well, I like dark and disturbing as much as the next guy.  Heck, it's why I hang around here.  I hope being set in Spain doesn't mean they were serving some dark and disturbing Spanish omelette egg-sausage-salsa puree goop breakfast thing during that dinner scene with the guy who looks like somebody in need of the economy size of moisturizing cream.  Or Howie Mandel, before makeup.

Would you buy it?  Would you watch it again? I haven't rented a movie for years...  Those places just seem so "scuzzy"; no offense.  I did buy "Freaks", that ancient film with the circus freaks who turn on the "normal" people who try to scam them...  Talk about old and weird.  I expected more of it... 

Ace; I wonder if a maze for tykes is a "babyrinth"

Ring bells for service.

pat

Sure, I�d buy it and then watch it again. I don�t know that I�d pay to go to the theatre to see it again. As fast as they are releasing movies to DVD these days though you may not have to wait long, heck went to see The Departed one weekend it was out to DVD the next.

I didn�t mention thought that there are subtitles, so you probably have to watch it at least a couple of times just to catch what you missed while you were reading the script.

pat;My Labyrinth is called life........................
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Ace

My labyrinth is called "Bob." 

So, anyway, continue with the movie reviews.  Let's hear about the Film Of The Year; The Departed.  Unless you're talking about the film about Poasters...

I'm sure not going to any theatres, though. Or theaters. Either one.  If I want to my feet to stick to the floor I'll just sit in the kitchen...

Ace; I should try subtitles
Ace, finding nothing further to say, decides to sign off
Ring bells for service.

pat

The Departed? It was pretty good, you know, cop goes undercover to catch the bad guys all the while the supposedly good cop is undercover for the bad guys or guy, Jack Nicholson. Hey it twists it turns, both the bad guy and the good guy are involved with the same girl. Martin Sheen is also in the flick although he trips and falls down a few stories, but I�m afraid to go on for fear of giving away the surprise ending.

Yeah, I liked better than the Queen or Volver but probably not as much as The Illusionist, that was one slick flick. That Edward Norton is one good fellow to watch. He was also great in The Painted Veil.
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Ace

You know those grooves on Circulon cookware?  That could be Frying Pan's Labyrinth..
The jester struggles to make a joke of something that is difficult to joke about

Anyway, I'll buy the Departed.  That sounds like my kind of movie.  Maybe I'll pick up some new words from the dialogue.  I hear it's pretty ripe.
Embarrassed by his earlier comic failure, the jester struggles to change the subject.

I hope it's not like "The Others", though, since they were departed but I already saw that one.  Twice, even.  I mean, you buy the thing you've got to watch it at least twice...
I hate being around people, particularly loud ones on a sticky floor

You know a movie I'm going to have to force myself to see again that I stupidly bought?  "Sideways."  I mean, I like wine almost as much as Buff but that thing just didn't go where I thought it would and I really really do not like that Asian woman who's from Grey's Anatomy.  Really really do not. 
"I hate her, that woman" exclaimed the jester to no one in particular

Ace; not like I'm going to spit any out, though
The jester hoped they know he meant the wine
Ring bells for service.

Bill

And no one in particular exclaimed in retort "Why do you really REALLY not like that Asian woman who's from Grey's Anatomy?  Really really, why do you not?"

And if you didn't watch it, you wouldn't see her. 

Bill; I think her anatomy is fine.

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pat

I�ve never seen Grey�s Anatomy and I�m not sure I would like to. Now Rachel Ray might be a different story, I suppose she could fry up some liver and onions and make a pretty good story out of that.

I do like the narration with the poasting, sort of like one of those behind the scenes interview type DVDs.

I never saw The Others, but I�ll take you at your word and just give it a pass. Sometimes it�s better to just stick with fluff like the The Bandidas with Salma Hayek and Penelope Cruz two wild and crazy gals out to make things right after the evil American bankers start swindling the locals out of their land.
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scuzzy

If Ace is going to buy the Departed then I will too. Mostly because I don't want him having anything that I don't, with the exception of cooties and toe fungi. Funguses. Fun gases.
After careful consideration, Scuzzy decided against using subtitles
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Ace

Like I need a reason...
the jester struggles with how to put his aversion to this actress delicately...
Mostly it's her expression; stuck on wide-eyed stupidity.  And getting constantly emotionally distraught, in pretty much every scene. I can appreciate true emotion but I have a distinct aversion to "weepy" people.  Usually women.  She just bugs me. And the show seems emotionally distraught/weepy/sensationalized/surreal hospital fake drama. Like how ER has gotten, where they seem to need an ER shooting/explosion/gang attack/Chicago disaster every week.  As opposed to a realistic plot-twister like "24", where time stand stills and it's only halfway through Jack's day and he's already tortured 57 people and been captured/tortured/escaped 3 or 4 times and it's still only half a day since he walked off that plane from China with scars and a full beard and he's made about 1100 cell phone calls.  I have never seen a show where the majority of dialogue is by phone, like this one... Oh, and the extra nukes are still out there and soon to be set off by some mysterious Mideast terrorist group or Kurzhakastan or Upper Mongolia or the president's own advisors or who knows who cares anymore...
the jester's mind wanders, trying to justify his dislike of that Asian actress who bugs him as he wishes she'd be blown up on Grey's Anatomy and end both her career and the show's run

Hannibal would like it if Rachel Ray made liver, I'd suppose.  Even her own.  I saw Thelma and Louise, so I guess some hot chick swindle movie would be ok. 
the jester hates liver, but thinks Rachel Ray is one hot dish

Ace; her anatomy is ok, if she'd put a bag over her head.
Ace's mind wanders, as he imagines himself in that Hannibal Lector mask thing with the mouth bars and a straight jacket.  Others think it would be an improvement if he was dressed like that.
Ring bells for service.

Bill

Now at the desk, LOL!!!
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Ace

Ok, but you mispelled "Lola"... Shoot, it's not that hard; the Kinks even spelled it out in the song. 

Hey, you know what would've been funny is if Pat didn't like the movie, and then we coulda had a headline like PAT PANS PAN'S LABYRINTH

It would have been.  Well, I think it would've been. 

You know, I LIKED "The Others."  It was sorta like "The 6th Sense" as far as not realizing what was happening.  And worth watching again, just to see how they pulled that off.  Did you catch "Lady in the Bathtub" or "Lady in the Water" or whatever that last M. Night Shymalihalihanigan movie was?  I saw it nominated for "Worst Movie of the Year" and panned horribly.  He sure is uneven when it comes to putting together films..  6th Sense, Crop Circles... great films.  "The Village":  could've punched the screen at the "surprise."  What a waste of time..

Ace; I like Nicole Kidman, too.  Heck, who doesn't.
Ring bells for service.

pat

Yeah, that Village movie was a real boner. The scarecrow wasn�t even realistic.

Well Nicole is okay, but I didn�t know she was in the Others, so maybe I�ll look it up and watch it. I just hope it�s not like that Eyes Wide Shut. I couldn�t make head nor tails of that one. No pun intended.
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Ace

#13
Was that bad? I'd heard it was.  Probably a Scientology theme, like in that movie about the biker middle aged guys.  You know what'd be funny?  If Nick Cage showed up in that one, in flames...
the jester re-reads his poast the next morning, and besides being confused initially on which movie "that" refers to finally figures out he must mean "Eyes Wide Shut" but struggles to remember writing this poast at all last night...

The weird freaky thing from The Others was the old custom of taking photos of the dead... I mean, it was like an Entertainment Tonight on the Continuing Saga Of Old Dead Anna Nicole.  I mean, you'd think it'd end with burial, but nooooo....   She lives on, even in death.  Makes as much sense from there, too.

I'm sure I'd take an ocean cruise to the Bahamas and first thing I'd want to do is "visit the grave."  You betcha.
Reflecting on the funeral, Ace considers a "Pretty in Pink" theme as pretty ironic, and sick

Ace; next, Ace takes on "The Secret"
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pat

Oh yeah, real bad, one of those movies that get rave reviews from top film critics that leaves you scratching your head and going, Huh? I mean, sure I�m not the sharpest tool in the shed, but duh, the thing is just out there. Or, I just can�t appreciate the nuance of fine cinematography. Perhaps I�d be better off with Jackass or Jackass 2.
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Ace

I was trying to figure who you were referring to here
the jester bites his tongue, deciding not to pursue the "Jackass 1+2" comment

Ouch.  I hate it when I do that... dangit.
You have to remember, these are people whose JOB is to watch movies.. I mean, in the grand scheme of worthless endeavors that's right up there with time/study efficiency experts whose job is to watch OTHER people work and then critique them.  Someday, that's the job I want.  Actually, I wouldn't mind being a restaurant critic, either.  Anything that involves bribes would be alright, too.

I wonder if someday there will be a "Saw" box set...  I wonder if they have a soundtrack CD out.

Ace; dumbest conversation you're likely to here:  "Hey, did you see Saw?"  "Yeah, I saw Saw." 
Ring bells for service.

pat

I didn�t see saw and I don�t want too. Jeez, the dang previews were enough to creep me out.

I did see a couple of flicks this weekend, went to see Venus with Peter O�toole and Jodie Whittaker. I�ll let others write the reviews and/or make moral judgments. For my part I found it enjoyable to watch and just a different perspective on getting older, which, if we�re lucky, we'll all face someday.

Also saw Ghost Rider.  It was okay even if it was predictable and just more of the same in the new comic book hero movie type genre. See it if you want too, but I donââ?¬â?¢t think Iââ?¬â?¢ll buy that one, the new Spiderman previews looked good though.

I did buy a copy of A Scanner Darkly probably watch it later on.
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Bill

Just out of curiosity, what does going to the movies cost in your neck of the woods?  When I left Jersey, a typical evening show was $10.50.  Haven't been down here.

Bill
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pat

We almost always go to the afternoon matinees and that costs $6 per, I think the evening shows are now $8.
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Ace

Well, as is typical, Pat has dropped the ball and the dang poast office has gone doormat.  He mentions seeing the manatees and then never does say how they were in Florida.  And since nobody showed up to help me with the pool table I'm still without a pool.  I've got a couple tables, but like the one in the ad the balls roll off the dang things, although the pasta tends to stay put.

And nothing on the food review end, either.  Whiz whips up a nice blender of eggs and sausage and salsa and nobody steps up to the EggsSalsaSausageShake stand to buy a mug.  I guess it's like that old saying, "When life gives you lemonade, go ahead and drink a bunch and then go to the grave of your enemy and

Well, you know. I think I'll like "The 300" even though it looks extreme and cartoonish.  My wife wanted some dumb chickflick Richard Gere ballroom dancing thing with JLo and Susan Sarandon.  I guess I'll watch them, while she watches him.  I had a dance class in 8th grade and that was enough of ballroom for me.  Well, gymnasium.  It was the sort of thing where the guys sat on one side of the gym and the girls on the other, and the guys get up and cross over to pick a girl to dance with...  I guess like a singles bar for 13 year olds, without the bar.  I don't know, maybe if they had a punch bowl of eggs and sausage and salsa it would've gone over ok.  Although not hot salsa, since people were sweating a lot anyway just from nerves.

If Venus is that bright star in the west right now, then I've seen it to.  If not, then I haven't. 

Ace; I won't go to a movie until everyone else promises to stay home.
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pat

My wife suggested that we go see that movie with J-Lo and much to my own amazement really I enjoyed it. Funny I really didn't like J-Lo at first, but once she  was in that killer snake movie, she was alright by me.

I did go see the Little Children movie last week and yeah, that's a good one. If you like Kate Winslet, you can get a good look at her in that one, wait that doesn't sound right. They show a lot of her in that one, no wait, lets try that again, she is alright. Quite a good story too, and a really good, scary, twisted ending.
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Bill

This certainly a funny wait strange time of the year for you to be whinning about not having a pool.  You want to go ice skating or something? 
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Ace

Well, not to introduce Global Warming into a food poast about Pat's taste in movies but Balmy Beautiful Michiana has entered springlike conditions.  Robins, crocuses, cavorting bunnies and still large-pantsed squirrels lumbering about.  It was in the 60's yesterday late afternoon, when I jogged then grilled out for the first time.  We had TBones marinated in Chicago marinade and they did taste a lot like Chicago.

And a nice Pinot Noir, if Buff is watching.

And it seems "solid"... temps to remain from 50's to 70's.  I await golf courses to open and nets to be hoisted on tennis courts and other signs of spring. Actually will be warm enough for cold margaritas soon.

Ace; hint hint Patrick
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pat

Hint taken and filed for future reference. Of course this is Michiana and the weather can change faster than a bus to Chicago. So don�t dawdle if you want that margarita.

It�s funny that you would mention Chicago, I spent all last week working in the City and I had real Chicago Pizza along with other fine Chicago culinary delights. I even got caught up in a real Chicago traffic jam.

I did manage to get out to see a show last night, The Last King of Scotland. Okay it�s not about Scotland or even in Scotland. It is about a young man from Scotland who ends up as an advisor to Idi Amin, superbly played by Forest Whitaker. I do recommend seeing this one and won�t go into details as I know I�d end up giving away too much of the story.

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scuzzy

#24
Well, thanks Pat. I was going to go see The Last King of Scotland, but then you had to come along and completely ruin the movie by telling me the plot. You further ruined it by telling me the actor's name. Then this whole thread was ruined when I realized Ace was poasting to it.

Of course, one could argue that at least Ace was poasting, as opposed to me who hasn't been. Poasting.

Anyway, I don't know why Pat's wife had to convince him to go see a movie with Jaylo. I'd be happy to do anything with her. (Jaylo, not Pat's wife. Not that Pat's wife isn't nice or anything. Heck, how would I know? That's for Pat to decide.) I also think that Pat's wife is either way too trusting, or maybe they just have some sort of open relationship.

Scuzzy; maybe this is her way of controlling whom Pat has an affair with.
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Ace

First off, I thought Bill was the last king of Scotland.  Seconhand, it should be "she with whom Pat has an affair."

Geez, Pat is seeing more action than the Desktop area.  And not to ruin anything, but Forest Whitaker doesn't last all that long in "The Crying Game" either and that guy from Stargate where he was the Egyptian is still a guy, although it sure is tricky to tell until it's almost too late. 

I've also got the Ghost Dog get Away from The Samurai movie with Forest Whitaker.  It's pretty cool, too.
Real Chicago pizzas are to die for; the last one I had was from the Rathskellar in Mishawaka.  And the one before that was in Indy.  You know what I miss, speaking of pizza?  The Sicilian pan pizzas, from Noble Romans and Pizza Keg.  And Godfather's pizza; they were like nothing else.

Ace; when's dinner...
Ring bells for service.

pat

Well duh, you can only get real Chicago pizza in Chicago everything else is just Chicago Style. That would be like going to China to find an American work ethic, but that�s dead so you wouldn�t find it anyway.

You�re right though Godfather�s was pretty good, lots of toppings, I wonder why they went out of business?




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Bill

#27
Duh, somebody made them an offer they couldn't refuse.

The next to the last King of Scotland.
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Buffalo2102

Quote from: Ace on March 23, 2007, 09:07 hrs
And a nice Pinot Noir, if Buff is watching.

Yep, I'm watching.  I just have to wait until things come into focus......

Anyway, Pinot Noir is good.  Pinot Grigio also - the other half's favourite tipple.

Nice thread guys - all about food, movies and weather.  What else is there?


Buff; Riveted.
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Ace

I don't know if anyone should be discussing their other half's tipples in a family forum.  Or even their own, as far as that goes.

I think "riveted" is a good choice of words for when you've over imbibed (that's when you spill some on your bib) because it does feel like you would if you had rivets implanted.  I'm surprised no one has tried that for piercings.

The problem I have with wine and movies is dozing off before the end.  Not the bottle, the movie.  Actually, I usually come to just before the end and I peer out with one eye and think "huh. I wonder how they got there.  And who that is."

I'm not saying I can't handle wine.  I usually do that ok, and don't spill it all that often.  And I'm good with a corkscrew.  Even those single ones that restaurants use for some dumb reason instead of the wing type.  You can sniff the cork if you want, but usually it will smell like cork unless it's one of those funky plastic type ones that the cheapos have gone to.  If it's a screw cap I wouldn't bother to sniff.  I wouldn't bother to buy it.

Ace; and I sure wouldn't sniff the box if you bought it that way.
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