Need Some Suggestions(Building a Comp)

[Commie]

This is what I have so far and the total is around 1200....now I believe everything is compatible right?  I am also wondering how much of a difference there would be between a AMD 64 system and this one?

Cases (Computer Cases, ATX Form)  
   ASPIRE Case with side panel Window 420W Power Supply and front USB 1.1 (Blue), Model "ATXA2XPW-BL/420"
Specifications:
Material: 1.0mm SECC
Form Factor: ATX
Driver Bays: External 4 x 5.25", 2 x 3.5" Internal 4 x 3.5"
Expansion Slots: 7
USB/IO: 2 x USB + Audio
Case Fans: 1 x 80mm (front), 2 x 80mm (rear), 1 x 80mm (side panel see pics)
Power Supply: Turbolink 420W
Dimensions: 18.6" D x 8.0 " W x 20.5" H more info>
N82E16811144038  $89.00
$89.00  

CD/DVD Burners (RW Drives)  
  LiteOn Black DVD-RW/+RW Drive, Model LDW-411S BLK, OEM
Specifications:
Write Speed: 4X DVD+R,4X DVD-R,4X DVD+RW,2X DVD-RW,40X CD-R, 24X CD-RW
Read Speed: 40X CD-ROM, 12X DVD-ROM
Interface: ATAPI/E-IDE
Buffer: 2MB
OS Support: Windows XP/2000/Me/98SE
Features: SMART-BURN,SMART-X
Remark: OEM pack (see pictures for details) more info>
N82E16827106921  $108.00
$108.00  

CD/DVD ROM Drives  
   LITE-ON BLACK 16X DVD ROM Drive, Model XJ-HD166/XJ-HD 165H, OEM
Specifications:
Read Speed: 48X CD-ROM, 16X DVD-ROM
Interface: E-IDE/ATAPI
Buffer: Not specified
Access Time: 120ms ( typical )
Data Transfer Rate: DVD-ROM 8600~21600 KB/sec, CD-ROM 3000~7200 KB/sec
Features: SMART-X Technology, Easy-Tray Design for Both Horizontally & Vertically Use
Remark: OEM (see pictures for details) more info>
N82E16827131603  $33.00
$33.00  

Floppy Drives  
  Alps DF354H121F Black 3.5inch Floppy Disk Drive, OEM
Specifications:
Capacity: 1.44MB
Average Access Time:3 ms (track to track)
Interface: 34 Pin Standard Floppy Connector
Form: 3.5 inch
Media Type: All Standard 1.44MB & 720KB 3.5 Floppy Diskettes
Features: High reliability attained by the employment of a direct-drive motor
Remark: OEM more info>
N82E16821103201  $7.00
$7 ea.@10+
$6.75 ea.@20+
$6.5 ea.@60+
$7.00  

Hard Drives  
  SAMSUNG 160GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, Model SP1614NKIT, Retail
Specifications:
Capacity: 160GB
Average Seek Time: 8.9 ms
Buffer: 8MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA133
Features: Fluid Dynamic Bearing Spindle Motor Technology
Manufacturer Warranty: 3 years
Remark: Retail more info>
N82E16822152016  $121.00
$121.00  

Memory (System Memory)  
   Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, (Twin Pack) 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-3700
Specification
Manufacturer: Corsair
Speed: DDR466(PC3700)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: Non-ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Unbuffered
Cas Latency: 3-4-4-8
Support Voltage: 2.75V
Bandwidth: 3.7GB/s
Organization: two 64M x 64 -Bit
Special Features: Plug-n-Frag Auto-Configuration
Warranty: Lifetime more info>
N82E16820145442  $253.00
$253.00  

Motherboards - AMD  
   MSI nForce2 Ultra 400 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU, Model "K7N2 Delta-L" RETAIL
Specifications:
Supported CPU: Socket A AMD Athlon/AthlonXP/Duron Processors
Chipset: nVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 + MCP
FSB: 200/266/333/400MHz
RAM: 3x DIMM support Dual Channel DDR400/333/266/200 Max 3GB
IDE: 2x UltraDMA 66/100/133 Max 4 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP 4X/8X, 5x PCI, 1x ACR
Ports: 2xPS2,1xCOM,1xLPT,1xLAN,6xUSB2.0(Rear 4),Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC650 6-Channel Codec
Onboard LAN: 10/100M Fast Ethernet
Form Factor: ATX more info>
N82E16813130419  $75.00
$75.00  

Processors  
  AMD Athlon XP 3200+ "Barton", 400MHz FSB, 512K Cache Processor - Retail
Specification
Model: AMD Athlon XP 3200+
Core: Barton
Operating Frequency: 2.2GHz
FSB: 400MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/512K
Voltage: 1.65V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: Retail Box (Heatsink and Fan included) more info>
N82E16819103390  $220.00
$220.00  

Video Cards  
  ATI AIW RADEON 9800PRO Video Card, 128MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/CATV/VIVO, 8X AGP -Bulk
Specifications:
Chipset/Core Speed: RADEON 9800PRO/380MHz
Memory/Effective Speed: 128MB DDR/680MHz
BUS: AGP 1X/2X/4X/8X
Ports: Video In+CATV In+Video Out+DVI connector
Support 3D API: DirectX?9, OpenGL?2.0
Cable/Accessories: 4 Cables, VGA via DVI Adapter, VIVO Adapter, Remote Control, USB RF Receiver, Driver CD, Manual
Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@85Hz
OEM Pack (See pictures for details) more info>
N82E16814102309  $339.00
$339.00

[Commie]

The motherboard isn't compatible after looking at it is it?
That ram will not work with that motherboard, the ram is DDR466 and the motherboard supports DDR400/333/266/200 correct?

Where do I find a 466 motherboard

[query]

The mainboard is compatible with the processor.  There's no such thing as  a 466 mainboard - the RAM is designed with an extra margin to allow overclocking.

PC3200 is the fastest RAM you need for any board these days - though faster DDR is on the way for the next generation of P4 processor.

[MXi]

I would switch your optical drives with a different brand like asus ir lg.  If you really want to have black drive plate without paying a small fortune for sonys, get some samsung drives.

Good choice with the HDD, you can't even get a hold of them in my country without shipping them from overseas.

As query said, save your self some dough to by using 400mhz (PC3200) RAM, you'll save enough money for a 6 pack of cold-ones and a cool sticker for your case when your finished.

Otherwise, the system looks awesome.  I envy you.

[Tranquility_Base]

Excellent stuff.
Actually, i disagree with MXi becoz if ur looking to save some bucks on the optical drives the best way to go is LiteOn.
As the other guys said its better to go for PC3200 RAM.

One more suggestion, I have the same motherboard except its the K7N2 Delta ILSR instead of Delta L. I suggest u get the ILSR version becoz it features firewire, SATA and RAID functionality which isnt available in the Delta L, and actually makes the motherboard much more future proof.

Good luck with a very good build.

[Commie]

Alright I upgraded the motherboard...it was only like 50$ more so its not that big of a deal....

I also upgraded the case to a hell of alot better on...at least I think...this one has 2 more fans and some good features...its double the price but I want to make sure I protect my investment...

Cases (Computer Cases, ATX Form)  
   Thermaltake Highest Xaser III V1420DU Blue Case with 420W Power Supply,Retail.
Specifications:
Case Type: Xaser III Super Tower
Color: Blue
Material: Chassis:1.0mm SECC Japan Steel,Front Panel:All Aluminum
Drive Bays: 5.25'' x4,3.5''(External) x2, 3.5''(Internal) x6
Expansion Slots: 7
Front Ports: USB2.0 x2,IEEE1394 x1,Mic x1,Speaker x1
Power Supply: 420W Silent PurePower
Cooling System: 80mm Fan Front x2 Rear x2 Side x2 Top x1
Motherboard Compatibility: StandardATX,MicroATX,ExtendATX
Dimensions: 20.9''x8.1''x20.5''
Special Features: ?C / ?F display switch;4 channel adjustable fan speed knob;2 way lock in front panel, etc. more info>
N82E16811133109  $160.00
$160.00
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?DEPA=&sumit=Go&description=11%2D133%2D109&searchdepa=0

I think I did pretty good;D

[Roopert]

Take a look at the Athlon 64 3000+ and 3200+ CPU's. I think you'll find them a better value. If you decide on one of these you'll need a different motherboard to support them.

[Commie]

Well for right now I'm gonna stick with this and in a few months when the prices of the 64's go down I'll look at the end of the summer to upgrade if it is really important to me but I doubt it will be.....I'd def pick up the 3400+ but right now its around 450...which is alot more than I planned on spending so I'll wait it out till it drops a good amount and I really need that power....

Plus its not fully applicable yet so that another flaw....I've heard of problems with sound cards etc etc so I'll wait for everyone else to catch up to it before I even think of getting into it like when games start to more readily come out in 64 than it'll be worth it but for right now to me its not worth the price difference....

[MXi]

The reason i say go with a different brand is because Drives like that will probably stay with you when you upgrade your PC.  Thus, you will probably be using the drives after their waranties expire.  and in my experiances, and the experiances of those i know, lite-ons are only good for as long as their warranty period.

[Commie]

I've heard that the lite-on's actually work really well and its what cocacola philly uses and they've all held up well so I figured they can't be that bad...

Now for me to use the new motherboards full features I need a sata hard drive correct?  Tranquility did yours come with the connection cable(the motherboard)  if not I would need to order that also....

Maybe someone can tell from the pictures of the cables that come with the motherboard...
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-130-418&depa=1

You'll have to copy and paste it

[query]

Lite-On has mastered the art of making products that last the warranty period before failing.  Look elsewhere if you want durability after the warranty ends.

The board will come with SATA drive data cables, but not the power converters.  Those usually come with retail drives. If you buy an OEM drive, make sure you purchase a SATA to Molex power connector cable (unless you buy a WD Raptor, which doesn't need one - it has a Molex connector on it).

[Commie]

Why can't I find the power cable????????

I don't see anything on newegg....I have to be looking in the wrong spot...

I've swapped over to samsung burners/readers too...

[Mark H]

Here is one at Newegg.

Mark H

[Commie]

:D

Thanks everyone...its all ordered and on its way now...

I'll be sure to check back in once I can't get the darned thing to work right;D  and if I do get it to work right I'll post up some numbers...

Thanks again
Luke

[Mark H]

Did you end up getting a SATA interface hard drive? You don't need the power adapter if you didn't or if you got a Western Digital SATA drive.

Mark H

[Commie]

Yes I got a SATA Seagate 80 gig 8mb buffer...

[Mark H]

I look forward to reading how everything goes. :)

Mark H

[Tranquility_Base]

What do u need an extra power adapter for? When i got my MSI motherboard it came with two data cables for SATA drives and one power connector for it.

[AMD-geek]

That Seagate 80gb is a really nice hard drive i got the same one.  Awsome speed  150mbps transfer rate!
Which on did u get the baricuda or regular?

[Mark H]

That Seagate 80gb is a really nice hard drive i got the same one.  Awsome speed  150mbps transfer rate!
Which on did u get the baricuda or regular?

The SATA controllers are capable of 150 MB/s, but the physical drives are in the 60 MB/s range at best, unless you go the WD 74 gig raptor, which approaches 70 MB/s.

Mark H

[AMD-geek]

seriously? huh i did not know that.  well thanks now i do but still the speed difference between sata and ide is crazy.   One question what is the difference between ide and eide?

[Mark H]

EIDE stands for enhanced IDE. It is an older interface by Western Digital that increased the supported data rate by a factor of four over IDE. It took it to a whopping 4 to 16 MB/s.

Now the ATA-100 interface is prevalent as is ATA-133. They are commonly referred to as IDE interfaces, but they are much faster than the first IDE or even EIDE interfaces. Now we have SATA that is even faster.

Current hard drives can't even attain the transfer rates available to them by ATA-100 (100 MB/s), ATA-133 (133 MB/s) or SATA (150 MB/s). It is a physical limitation with the hard drive designs. To improve performance would drive price up too much at this point. Just look at the cost for the Western Digital 74 GB Raptor and it doesn't even hit ATA-100 speeds. Costs go even higher when you move to SCSI interface drives. There is a price for speed.

Mark H