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Title: Idol '09
Post by: Bill on March 04, 2009, 06:59 hrs
Unlike other years, we have watched all of the early selection shows.  My selections from last night, in no particular order, are Jorges, Scott the blind guy, and last but certainly not least, the last lady performer of the evening. 

Just a bit transparent how the talent level grows as the show progresses. 

Bill
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on March 04, 2009, 13:10 hrs
My picks from last night are Lil Rounds, Scott Macintyre and Jorge Nunez. These are the same ones as you picked Bill.

Mark H; I too watched the early rounds for the first time in a few years.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on March 04, 2009, 16:47 hrs
I hate it when you guys start throwing big words around, like names, because then I have to go look them up to see "who the heck was that one..."
I actually liked Ju'Not last night.  I did not stay up for Lil whatever, in the final spot.  I guess I didn't expect much from her, but I suppose I should pay attention to the seeding...  Scott the Piano man is fine, but I really don't consider him as good a singer as others.  Just a nice rounded talent, and good guy.  I thought Jorge has a nice voice, but not exactly that riveting.

So far my absolute favorite is the guy who lost his wife recently, with the glasses  (yes, I should look it up.... dangit).  And the red red head who sang Heart last week.  And I dearly wish NOone would sing another Alicia Keys song... criminy, she isn't that dang entertaining herself and the songs sure aren't worth covering.  And I could do without ever hearing "Put Another Record On" in my lifetime. 

Ace; I haven't bought David Cook's CD yet, as I don't feel like spending $13 something for it.  I did get the Chris Cornell solo disc that had his version of Billie Jean that Cook did last year. 
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Bill on March 04, 2009, 16:59 hrs
Just as an aside, I did get a chuckle from Simon's revised opinion about Jorge's accent.  What would you call Simon's vocal sounds, surely not American.


Bill, at least it's not a drawl, y'all.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on March 04, 2009, 17:11 hrs
Quote from: Ace on March 04, 2009, 16:47 hrs


So far my absolute favorite is the guy who lost his wife recently, with the glasses (yes, I should look it up.... dangit). 

Danny Gokey is his name and he is one of my absolute favorites. I like Allison Iraheta as well, which is the one who sung Heart's song Alone, which is one of my favorite all time songs.

I have to look up the contestant's names as well and do it from this link (http://www.americanidol.com/top_36/group_2).

I am thrilled that Tatiana Nicole Del Toro is gone since I could not stand her acting like a drama queen. I also hope that Nathaniel Marshall  is gone tonight since he is the drama king to match the drama queen.

Mark H
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on March 04, 2009, 22:11 hrs
I think that Tatiana Nicole Del Toro is a good singer and deserves to be in the wild card round. I just can't stand her drama queen act.

Mark H; I am hooked (again)
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on March 05, 2009, 18:53 hrs
Oh, Puh-Leeze...  Tatiana is a good singer except for the drama queen act.  Geez Criminy, there's nothing but the drama queen act.  I do think they did that just to see how far they could push the viewers' tolerance level.  There isn't anyone they brought back that I wish they had..  And by wasting picks on Tatiana (and thank goodness they didn't continue Cabaret Boy with his Boy George headband) they cut off some promising talent like Ju'Not.  I think having the Betty Davis Thighs girl back is also a bit weird. 

Thanks for the name game and link; I still am going to have to have more time to learn who these people are.  Although I probably won't need to on too many, after tonight.  I am going to have to figure who Adam Lambert is.  I'm drawing a blank, as usual...  At least I do remember Jorge.  Or "Mark Antony Jr.". 

ace; I wish JLo would stop by...  Anything is better than an inebriated Abdul. 
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on March 05, 2009, 22:14 hrs
It looks like we have another cute tatoo arm girl in the final 12 (13) that is going to make me cringe at how good she would look without the stupid full arm tatoo. Anyone remember Carly Smithson? She would have been much better looking without her tatoo.

Mark H; Can anyone tell that I don't like full arm tatoos on females (or males either)?
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on March 06, 2009, 18:30 hrs
I don't like full body tattoos either.  Especially on the neck, or head.  I'm glad Tatooine is gone.  If I wanted Drama, I'd watch "House."  But I do like Carly Smithson; I thought she was a heck of a singer. 

I thought last night wound up ok; the better people advanced.  Although I don't know what Doopdong is gonna be as an artist, and I'd rather have seen Ju'Not get through.  But that's splitting hairs.  At least the really unworthy aren't.

Ace; Go Danny.  Please don't do a Chris Daughtry early departure. 
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on March 07, 2009, 17:12 hrs
I just listened to Heart's "Alone" when Allison Iraheta sung it and then listed to Carrie Underwood sing it and Carrie blows Allison away. There is no way that Allison Iraheta can touch the vocals of Carrie Underwood.

Mark H; Carrie Underwood is one of my favorites, so maybe I'm bias.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on March 08, 2009, 10:21 hrs
If I had to choose I'd take Ann Wilson singing it over anybody. Plus, she's a bigger star than either Carrie or Allison.  She's twice the performer.

Ace; wait for it...
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on March 08, 2009, 13:31 hrs
Quote from: Ace on March 08, 2009, 10:21 hrs
If I had to choose I'd take Ann Wilson singing it over anybody. Plus, she's a bigger star than either Carrie or Allison.  She's twice the performer.

Ace; wait for it...

I agree, but my point is that Carrie sounds better than Allison. Heart is one of my all time favorite groups.

Mark H; I have been to a Heart concert.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on March 08, 2009, 14:10 hrs
My point is Ann Wilson has become a huge star.  Ginormous.  Nearly as big as Aretha Franklin.

Ace; I thought I was at the Rotunda when she sang at the inaugaration.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on March 10, 2009, 22:23 hrs
Tonight, I liked Danny Gokey and Lil Rounds. I think Scott Lambert shouts to much. I think Megan Corkley will be gone tomorrow.

Mark H; I wonder what will be the new format or rules.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on March 11, 2009, 18:51 hrs
I do like Danny; even a song that I don't think much of sounds good by him.  I thought Adam was alright, with his Elvis meets Cabaret act.  It's funny he was criticized for being too theatrical but now they're impressed.

I still like Allison, and glad there's one rocker in it.  I think Scott doesn't have that much of a range, either.  I'm not a fan of Lil's style but I think she'll be consistent and always professional...  I've gotta say the Michael Jackson catalog is not thick enough to support this group; especially with "Man in The Mirror" already out of play.  Is Megan the one armed tattoo bandit?  If so, Rockin' Robin ougtha sound the death knell.. My gosh, that was more embarrassing than Blondie forgetting the words last year. 

I would've like to have heard "Ben."  For all the songs Michael Jackson's done there sure are a lot I've never heard (and never needed to...).  I think Streaker's "Dirty Diana" was strained, and with the bogus call in on her (IDOLS 36..?) she's probably doomed.  Plus, Doop Doggie Dog's "Beat It" should.  As in "get along...". 

Ace; Paula should be a lot of fun with the hangover....  They could put Chef Ramsey on the panel to replace her: "You stupid donkey!  You burned the ballad!  P.... off!"

Ace; I love British humour.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on March 12, 2009, 19:58 hrs
Liquor to add to Paula's coke during a week's tapings:  $22.85.  Tee shirt for Simon Cowell:  $19.95.
Ryan asking Simon "Will you save Jorge..?"
"No."
Priceless...

I will add that Kelly Clarkson has become a much BIGGER star than either Ann Wilson or Carrie Underwood.  She's TWICE the star of them, along with Nancy Wilson and probably a good portion of Meat Loaf thrown in.  Criminy, did she not know her new CD was out and she might want to look the part?

Ace; she oughta start doing the Sunday Night Football song; she's looking like a lineman.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on March 13, 2009, 16:33 hrs
"Sloshed" would be my term for her, this year.  And hanging out of that dress was unusually not appealing...

I absolutely concur on the plaid men; I wondered if they were doing an "Ode To Grunge" episode.  Danny Gokey dresses in a very dumpy way, and I wish he'd step it up visually (beyond what must be 50 pairs of those bizarre glasses).  I will say Adam 'dresses up' more and seems more the performer; especially when Danny starts to dance... (Taylor Hicks revisited..?).  I wonder if "Right Arm" will ever cover hers up. 

Ace; I'd rather watch Danny dance than Paula.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Bill on March 13, 2009, 16:43 hrs
Oh, com' on,  there is something appealing about swinging hips, even if they are of the hippo variety.

Bill
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on March 13, 2009, 21:27 hrs
Quote from: Bill on March 13, 2009, 16:43 hrs
Oh, com' on,  there is something appealing about swinging hips, even if they are of the hippo variety.

Bill

It depends on who is swinging them.  ;)

Mark H
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on March 14, 2009, 10:01 hrs
The root word of "hippo" is "hip."

I'm having this horrible image of Kelly Clarkson and Ann Wilson and Aretha Franklin doing the Bump onstage and taking out the band, judges and a number of innocent bystanders.  Oh, the humanity.

I didn't mind Lil Browns half prom dress/slacks combo.  You know, the way the judges dress, they really can't criticize. 

Ace: the root word of "butter" is...
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Bill on March 18, 2009, 07:06 hrs
The one observation from last night is that country music is more than soulful ballads.  From that perspective, it was a boring evening.

Bill
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on March 18, 2009, 17:00 hrs
Yes, I'd say Adam is unique.  At least as far as being the illbegotten son of Elvis and Freddie Mercury.
Of course, Sanjaya was an original too...

I share Simon's deep antipathy toward Country Music.  Actually, I do admire "real" country as having descended from pure folk, bluegrass, blues.. the British traditional music that hybrided once here.  And the songwriting tradition.  Meaning, I like Hank Williams but not Hank Williams Jr.  Bakersfield, or Texas Swing, is ai'ght too.  I do despise the "pop country" shallow repetitious mindless "Ah Luv Mah Pickup Truk" stuff.  Although Shania Twain can be quirky, and cute.  I like a good singer or performer in any genre.  I guess I'd like "authentic" country, like in genuine anything.  But not the rhinestone variety...

As a Johnny Cash fan, and also of Ring of Fire (plus Walk the Line) I will say Adam ripped that.  Into pieces.  But I'd also congratulate him for not twanging his way through some half baked copy of something he'd sooner not do anyway (see "Lil Little Rounds").  And by golly, a mideastern take on that song was definitely memorable.  And country.  Even if the country is Egypt...  It was stunning, but so's an electrical short if your finger's plugged in.

As far as other cool, I though Anoop Dog brought down the house.  I like Willie Nelson, and that was an upgrade.  Megan's walking pneumonia at Midnight was at least as bizarre as Adam's ring; but enjoyable for much the same reason as in "what the heck..?!"  I figured her spasmodic moves were just convulsions last night.  Allison can flat out sing, and perform, and I don't think I'll ever not like anything she does.  I enjoyed Kris Allen; the guy's steady and really good.  I like to hear him, and watch him.  That Matt finally reminded people of Michael Buble is about 3 weeks after that should have been obvious.

As for Falling Flat:  Scott is catching Brooke-itis from last year... Nice, repetitive, bland "pleasant" but not stirring.  I think Danny G. is going to bracket himself off into the gospel-tinged sameness, and will never deliver a really riveting memorable risky demonstration (in contrast to David Cook and others who have bent the bar as well as raised it).  He reminds me of the Aussie guy that seemed so good last year and then ground himself down with unmemorable (or just wrong) song choices and sameness.  Alexis sounded a lot like Dollie, but not as good as.  That doesn't help her any.

And I hated hated hated Michael's running the words together running off at the mouth running his pickup truck over Garth Brooks thing, because that's just the sort of country stuff I despise.  I just think it's hokey and dumb and annoying.  And so's he.

Vulnerable as all get out to me would be Mikey (if there is any justice), Lil Little, and Alexis, and Scott.  And if you could "vote out the one you hate" Adam could probably make a run for it, in the ears of many.  Danny could wind up at risk; will be interesting to see if the judges would save him, if that occurs (soon). 

If Paula is counting who gets eliminated as well as she can count verses sung, they could get rid of 4 or 5 people tonight.  The root word of "incoherent" is "drunk."

Ace; I'm working on it.  But still gotta stay awake to watch.


Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on March 18, 2009, 21:14 hrs
Alexis Grace is one person I think should have been in the top 10. I really think Michael Carver or Megan Joy should be gone.

Mark H; I liked Alexis Grace
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on March 19, 2009, 10:46 hrs
Megan would be sexier if she didn't have that stupid tatoo all over her right arm!

Mark H; I hate tatoos.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on March 19, 2009, 17:12 hrs
Randy Jackson's memoirs, as bassist (for 5 minutes) with Journey: 2 cents.  Carla Diwhat's her name's over use of "Amazing...": $1.50.
Ryan asking Randy "so, who do you think we'll go home?"
RJ: "I think Allison..."
AG: "My name's Alexis."
priceless

I hoped Sarver would hit the skids and go see his kid too.  He has an arrogance that is absolutely undeserved.  It was sad, but Alexis sang (shouted/cried) her way out of any bailout.  It was almost painful to see the pleading, distraught review of "Jolene", when it would have been a good time to carry it off realllly smoothly and better than before.  She struck me as desperate and not at all professional.  And I like her, too; a lot better than Sarver, as I've duly noted.

Shoot, Megan would be sexier if she didn't have the walking pneumonia and the boogie-woogie flu.  I think with her it begs the question "So.. why the one arm?"

Probably be a good idea not to have a "theme" in a couple weeks...  Those tend to get ugly.  Especially since they can be so stupidly constricting (songs of Neil Diamond..) or misunderstood ("Big Band".. guess I could do something from Bachman Turner Overdrive...) or heeded (Lil Little Roundup) which can be a big mistake.  Or just blown off: Adam's Jeff Buckley (wondered who in the world dreamed up that thing) "Country Serenade".  Or just wrong: like picking a 70's song on "60's Night."  (Not that Paula could tell).

I emphathize and sympathize and bow my head to anyone who subs; Geez Louise there is no job where you could be more "at risk" and in a no-win situation.  Well, except for Scuzzy's, and that's only if there are naked men coming out of the closet.  Not that there's anything wrong with that...  I just found subbing miserable, and hated if the phone actually rang in the morning...  It's like you're subhuman, to the kids.

Ace; you know, I saw that photo of what Charles Manson looks like now on the web today, and he amazingly looked
like Scuzzy.



Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on March 26, 2009, 16:46 hrs
While waiting for tonight's send off: I sincerely hope it's Sarver the Meathead.  I will say Adam and Allison were at the top of their games, and Adam's performance was one magic moment.  He could be k.d. lang's brother, as far as visuals and vocals.

I feel Scott and Gokey fading fast... Scott did a great Neil Sedaka (ech.).  And I can't believe no called Gokey on blowing off Smokey's advice and not bothering to sing much, and instead leaning on the back up singers.  Megan is still just weird, and moved and sounded worse than usual.  You'd think Lil blew it by not doing a thing but yelling a lot on what should have been right in her wheelhouse.

While focusing on Purdue's b-ball game, we'll see...

Ace; boiler up.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on March 26, 2009, 18:35 hrs
From the start, luck would be in order...
I forgot about Kara's word count; that was typical.  You know, we're getting a tanked water heater, tomorrow.  Talk about planned obsolescence...

Ace; never use a big word when a diminutive one would do.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on March 27, 2009, 19:35 hrs
Sarver can now move on to his bar band/wedding singer career.  And work as a Bouncer, too.
Josh Stone was ok, although something about Smokey really creeps me out.  I don't know if it's the eye color or face lift or hair or what.  I think Ruben Studdard was hiding under Stevie Wonder's coat...

If they made anti-perspirant as a hair spray Ruben should try it...

And thank goodness for Simon Cowell.. I know that sounds like an oxymoron.  But geez Louise, in the deliberations of "should we save Michael Sarver/roughneck?" with the women offering "well, he sounded pretty good just then.." only Simon seemed to have some sense of reason to say "well, no."  And said so.  My gosh, if they would have kept America FROM voting him off I probably would've thrown the remote through the TV...  What is wrong with these two, besides inebriation?

Whew.  Next, One-Arm and Scott face single elimination.  And hopefully Michigan Matt stays behind the piano. 

Ace; hoefully she'll stay covered, and sing better, for Mark.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Bill on March 28, 2009, 06:46 hrs
The 'save' is once, for the season.  I wouldn't be surprised if the judges are at the mercy of the producers on this issue.  If they use it too early, that bit of drama is gone, for the season.

Bill; the skeptic.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on March 28, 2009, 11:02 hrs
I hope they use it to bring back Chris Daughtry.  I'm still upset about that year... 

Ace; Paula doesn't look any better in a moustache.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on March 29, 2009, 21:07 hrs
Quote from: JA on March 26, 2009, 21:12 hrs
Megan Too Joy covered her right arm tonight.. for Mark.


That was a big help and helped her beauty remain unscathed. Unfortunately for her, it doesn't help her singing.

Mark H
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on March 30, 2009, 13:33 hrs
I do remember Smokey giving some contstructive advice. He told Michael Saver to belt out his song with authority rather than sing it in a more reserved way. He also told Danny Gokey to sing part of the chorus himself rather than have the chorus sing it.

Mark H
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Bill on March 30, 2009, 14:59 hrs
On top of that, his performance wasn't as good as some of the contestants.

Bill
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on March 30, 2009, 22:13 hrs
Another round of idol will be in less than 24 hours from now.

Mark H; Will Megan prove she still can't sing or will she prove that theory wrong?
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on March 31, 2009, 10:10 hrs
Adam Lambert
Danny Gokey
Lil Rounds / Matt

I can't say I am sold on Allison yet.

Mark H; The problem with Idol is it is an opinion poll.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on March 31, 2009, 13:33 hrs
I have always thought the voting should be once per phone number. If you text from a cell phone, that would count as coming from the cell phone number. I think it unfair that people vote over and over for the same person.

Mark H
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Bill on March 31, 2009, 13:51 hrs
Interestingly enough, Dancing with the Stars limits the number of votes from any one mode (cell, land line or computer) to the number of remaining contestants. 

Bill
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on March 31, 2009, 16:42 hrs
Popularity is an opinion.
Since every week involves eliminating someone, I'm for voting for whom to eliminate.  It makes more sense to get rid of the unworthy riffraff than try to figure who's best amongst the good.

I think voting per passion is justifiable. I buy music based on what I'm passionate about, not about what makes the best intellectual sense...  Pretty much when I do have a radio on I vote the way I described, which is a process of elimination of jumping around stations till I find one that doesn't annoy me as much.  Hence; the playing of CDs I've bought or CDs I've burned from what I've bought.  It's rare I'm turned off by those.

There's little in life that's as bogus as pop music.  From the days of manipulation via Payola to today's "everything's alternative" market, it's never been a fair playing field.  I'm sure many feel that there's mostly crap on the radio, and can't believe certain artists and tunes aren't heard.  As far as Idol, what's the real popularity these days of Fantasia?  Bo Bice?  Justin Guarino? Even Ruben Studdard?  How many people actually think Clay Aiken won that year...?  I don't think I've heard anything on the air from David Cook or David Archuleta.

I'd have to think Gokey and Scott are getting huge bumps just from sympathy votes, and people who simply "like" them as people.  Voting for the widower and the blind guy just for those reasons isn't unexpected.  And heck, there might be somebody out there who'd vote against somebody just because one arm is hideously vandalized...  (hey, there's a contestant every year just for the fans of picturesque one-armed women).

Voting blocks have proven to run roughshod over the show... the Sanjaya and "Island" votes on some years, or the cute girl/guy boost.  And what happens is the "winner" is the least unique or special or idiosyncratic one; for which MOR has been the standard of the industry.

Ace; MOR = MUZAK more times than not.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on March 31, 2009, 22:39 hrs
Megan's tatoo was in full swing today and her singing was once again worse than everyone else's with Anoop and Lil Rounds being in the bottom three as well in my opinion. Matt might replace Lil in the bottom three, but I think Anoop and Megan will definitely be in the bottom three.

Mark H
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on April 01, 2009, 16:45 hrs
I am now of an opinion that Megan Joy is just truly strange.  Weird.  Not in a good way.  I'm not sure what "style" she's trying to project, but it's not of this earth.  Sort of like Peggy Lee and Eartha Kitt having a love child with ... well, some guy who runs a tattoo parlor.  Or Rosie O'Donnell.  Something like that.

I thought Anoop was embarrassing and Lil projected what had to be the largest mouth I've seen since "The Joker."  She has gotten louder than heck, but it's ceased to become singing.

I'll tell you who I thought was sad:  my fave Alison.  When I was a kid I had one of those troll dolls, with the freaky frizzy hair and the sorta pushed-in face.  And boy, did she resemble it last night.  Add in the lame vocals and bizarre fashion statement and I was left with "What the..?" as my response.

Scott M. was ok, although he has a strange way of warbling things . I didn't get much from Gokey, again.  Adam's funky whiteboy thing was somewhat painful, but definitely energetic.  Even though he pretty much stopped singing with a minute to go, and then just went where only dogs hear.  I hope they liked it.  I think Taylor Hicks did "Play that Music" but he has the funk of ... Randy Jackson.

Matt was a mistake.  Boy, did that bring back his "copy Coldplay" earlier real time error.  What a cheesy, ill-thought imitation of someone with charisma.  The girls crowded around looked like they wished they could've stayed in their seats.  Chris was cool; that guy has his head and throat on straight.

Ace; Megan can sing in a cozy jazz club.  On Mars.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on April 01, 2009, 22:42 hrs
No more Tatoos for this years season of Idol and I am happy about that, although I could tolerate Carly Smithson since she could actually sing. I also thought she was prettier and not as quirkey as Megan. I still didn't like her tatoos though.

Mark H; Tatoo free just like it should be for season 8!
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Bill on April 09, 2009, 06:53 hrs
Even though last night's last ditch performance by Scott was better than the previous night, I think he had become, or maybe simply is, less than stellar.  Voters and the judges made the right decision, IMO.

Bill
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on April 09, 2009, 09:36 hrs
I agree that Scott should have been the one going, so America did get it right this week.

Mark H
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Bill on April 09, 2009, 10:16 hrs
I think it was an outstanding performance, but they ran out of air time and Simon giving him a standing O was shorter and quicker than a wordy explanation.

Bill
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on April 09, 2009, 16:29 hrs
You can see Adam Lambert's performance here (http://www.americanidol.com/videos/season_8/performances/) if you missed it.

Mark H
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on April 09, 2009, 16:37 hrs
Adam is a star.  You know, there've been some special moments through the years on Idol... Clay Aiken's "Unchained Melody".  Cat McPhee's "Black Horse and Cherry Tree" and "Over the Rainbow."  David Cook's "Billie Jean."  The ones where you watch and listen and go "Holy.... Wow."  And I think Adam has had three this year already, and even the funky white guy thing was unusual.  

Scott M. burned out; probably the wrong time to go to the change up and show his "versatility" to plunder through a big hair 80's run of the mill rock ballad.  And not that he plays guitar badly, but the barre chord strumming just didn't add anything, except make him look stiff and awkward.  And thank goodness Simon's calling an end to the girls' pity party that seems to be standard fare.."Oh, we like him and should we save him..?" missing the whole point of why he's in trouble in the first place, plus beg the question "Do you actually think he's going to WIN???!"  Geez Louise.

Actually, I would have put Lil off this week.  What a derivative, stubborn, nothing in particular.  At least Scott, like Blondie the piano player last year, is unique.  Otherwise: Kris/Chris was mobbed and had no room to breathe, let alone sing. And a reggae Eagles version isn't necessary.  Gokey is on autopilot, and loves songs that don't require much singing.  Justin Timberlake 2.0 ought to ditch the hat... and impersonation.  Alison was back in her zone; I do not like Bonnie Raitt at all, but criminy did she do more with that tune than ever has been.  Her voice has so much depth and texture, I'm fanned.  Anoop could record tapes to help people go to sleep... I mean, there wasn't anything in ruining a good Cyndy Lauper tune that he didn't already croon on the show.  It's like he's either rap boy goofy or toned down dreary, with no decent middle ground.

But I'll tell ya, Adam pulling out that song, in that way, which is unlike anything ever heard ever, was the BOMB!  As Randy would say.

Ace; and Kelly Pickler does country, but who can't, you know?
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Bill on April 15, 2009, 07:04 hrs
Last night was generally a disappointment and I definitely didn't care for the judging "teams."  I would have liked to hear the opinions of the 2 that were not "working" for a particular artist. 

IMO, Danny or Matt are on the exclusion list this week.

On the other hand, I did enjoy the news story about the 47 year old on Brittan's (?) got Talent.  Now there was a woman that can sing!

Bill
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on April 15, 2009, 09:37 hrs
Four judges just is not working. It takes up too much time and eliminates a real possiility of guest judges. I think the reason Fox did this is that Paula is leaving at the end of this season and Kara willl be the replacement. This puts the judges back to three. Of course Simon may leave at the end of next season and that will kill Idol.

I believe that they should have had Simon comment on all the contestants since he is the most relevant person on the panel. I didn't like his comments to Lil though since she did make an effort to change this week. To criticise her about the song is fine, but don't tell her that it is the same problem as the last 8 weeks.

Mark H
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on April 15, 2009, 11:42 hrs
I think Simon was seething, in having to listen and not be able to respond half the time.. I'd agree he's the only one that needs to talk.  I liked Chris' quiet moment, and not sure why Randy was so down on that.  Even with the time constraints they went over (go figure). 

I really find Anoop pretty much worthless; he could be the new Pat Boone... he's got a "nice" voice but just doesn't do anything that's out of the ordinary.  I'm glad I don't own a dog, since Adam hit notes that would have set it off...  I used to play "Born To Be Wild" and although it's one of his "odd" biweekly ones (Ring of Fire, Play that Funky Music) it was unusual and definitely not what anyone's ever done or heard.  I do wish he would have done "Crying Game" instead though.  The "performance" pieces are spectacular but I like to hear him sing (as well as wail...).

Lil was better; I was really afraid she'd pull out some Whitney Houston entry.  Seems like Simon's just got her pigeon holed and is past caring...  Danny or Matt can go too, as far as I care.  Matt's weird falsetto take-offs are just distracting (compared to Adam's siren that pins me back to the couch).

I liked Allison, but heck I usually do.  I have to figure there are some real movie nuggets out there that these guys missed... Like:
"He Rode A Blazing Saddle" from the movie of the same name.
"Gold Finger" or "Live and Let Die" or some other dorky Bond song.  Shoot, Chris Cornell's from the one before last.
Theme from Dr. Zhivago.  Or Star Wars.  I remember Bill Murray singing that...
"Fiddler on the Roof."  Something from "Tommy."  Has to be 2 or 5 Phil Collins movie themes out there.  In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida was featured in "Live and Die in LA."  Heck, that was a good movie title song too. 
I'll think of more.

Ace; and hopefully keep them to myself.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on April 15, 2009, 13:39 hrs
Bond songs would have been great with the bond girls doing the background vocals.

Mark H; I have all the James Bond DVDs in our DVD library.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on April 15, 2009, 14:28 hrs
You know, that reminds me.  When a kid, my brother and I went to buy the single (geez, remember those...) for Goldfinger.  Now, I wanted the John Barry instrumental version. Instead, we somehow picked up the Shirley Bassey vocal version.  Yiiiiiikes....  What a mistake on our part.  Not quite the same...

Since they showed so many clips of Pulp Fiction maybe they could've done "Songs From Quentin Tarantino Movies." Like Dick Dale surf tunes (or any other instrumentals). 

Speaking of dinner and movies, I did see the "Quantum of Solace."  I fell asleep.

Ace; not like I don't do that during most home movies anyway...
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on April 15, 2009, 21:51 hrs
I am just glad the save was used. I got tired of the show the judges did as if they were really considering a save. I hope they get rid of the save next season and go back to three judges.

Mark H; I actually like Jennifer Hudson, but Miley Cyrus can stay off of my TV too.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Buffalo2102 on April 16, 2009, 05:28 hrs
OK, this has gone on long enough without any input from Buff, so here goes........

You guys have far too much time on your hands.  What with watching all this telly and then poasting about it on here, it is a wonder anything else gets done over there.

Buff; jealous 'cos he's been doing lot's of DIY......
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Buffalo2102 on April 16, 2009, 05:29 hrs
Don't you hate it when people refer to themselves in the third person?

Buff;  :-[
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Bill on April 16, 2009, 07:11 hrs
Actually, there is a lot getting done over here; however most of it is not good, IMO.

The last time Hudson was on Idol she was booted.  Shoulda' stayed that way.  Just another performer whose elocution is terrible.  And, if Cyrus were a contestant, she would have lost; with an achey breaky voice.

Bill;bring on the BeeGees.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on April 16, 2009, 09:24 hrs
I bet Simon was thinking that there was no way he would have approved Miley Cyrus going to Hollywood. Jennifer Hudson is a very good singer, but I didn't care for the song she sung on idol.

Buff - I have plenty of time on my hands, because thanks to this recession I have been unemployed since January 5th!

Mark H; At least I have an excuse for the time I waste.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Bill on April 16, 2009, 09:49 hrs
Everyone has their "15 minutes" of celebrity.

Bill
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on April 16, 2009, 11:45 hrs
If Ace was here, he would suggest Jennifer Hudson seems adept as a stage performer but wouldn't see her as a particularly intriguing recording artist... he thinks she projects ok, but couldn't imagine buying anything from her. 

He imagines Simon got sick of the women clamoring every week for whomever to be saved. And figured he might as well get it over with, and waste it on Matt (who, you gotta figure, is doomed anyway..).  Miley Montana is a waste of time.  Right up there with Taylor Swift, in his book.

For the Bee Gees, he prefers the old stuff when they were young.  "Odessa" was their pinnacle in his estimation (sort of their "Sgt. Pepper's").  The Disco stuff was actually at a frequency even above Adam's range. 

He finds it rude when people yell QWERTY keystrokes, in public.

Ace; he has no excuses.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on April 16, 2009, 12:49 hrs
Taylor Swift is another one that would not last on Idol. I think that even Miley Cyrus is better than Taylor Swift and that isn't saying much.

Mark H; Gone with Swift and Cyrus!
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on April 22, 2009, 12:36 hrs
I figured I'd make my predictions before tonight's show, although it'd probably be easier if I waited.

Gotta go/paybacks are heck:  Matt and Lil.  The Redundancy Committee in Charge of Redunancy can have both sing at their convention.  Stink/Stank/Stunk, as the Grinch would sing.  The Statue of Limitations on Matt's save has run out.  Lil probably could have gone with "Brick House" for disco week, considering her posterior.  They both reminded me about how lousy Disco was.  I think she gave new meaning to the term "pitchy."

Shoot, I thought Disco died at Comiskey Park, anyway.  Why'd they have to go and bring that back....

Final 3: Adam, Alison, Kris, Danny.  With Anoop, and Danny, soon to follow Matt and Lil.  From bad, to boring.  Anoop should do "sleep walk" and Danny is eventually just going to stand there and let the background singers carry the WHOLE song.  They both have decent voices, but geez louise they're not raising their game.  Just going through the motions.

Adam is a phenom.  I have never heard anyone/anything like him.  Last night was stunning, much as the "Mad World" take.  The only singers I can think that remotely resemble him are Roy Orbison (but without the range, actually), and Brenda Lee and k.d. lang.  The emotion and delivery are actually more like some noteworthy females than any guy I've ever heard; it's not a falsetto he's in, that's his honest to gosh range and I believe there's not a note he can't hit (low, to high).  That and the intensity and cleverness and originality and emotion put him in a place no one goes...  I'd hope for Alison in the final two, as another incredible voice (way beyond her years...).  I really respect Kris; this guy is better than Dave Matthews or John Mayer and others of that ilk, and his take on redoing songs is impressive. 

Ace; I'd buy something from any of the 3.  But I'd buy two, if it's from Adam.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on April 22, 2009, 13:48 hrs
I think Chris, Adam and Danny are the top 3 this week. I think any of the other 4 could end up going home. I think Lil and Matt/Anoop should go home tonight.

Mark H
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on April 22, 2009, 21:56 hrs
Lil and Anoop are gone, so I was correct since Anoop/Matt would be one or the other.

I think the ones left are the top 5 out of the top 13 contestants, so it is ending correctly.

Mark H
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on April 23, 2009, 07:46 hrs
Boy, talk about hedging your bets.  No wonder you win the prediction poll every year.  Heck, if multiple choice counts, I'll go with Anoop/Matt/Lil/Danny as those whom won't win.  I was sweating it when Alison got put up there; thankfully Anoop took one for the team.  I think her potential and performance far outweigh his.

Matt is on borrowed time.  Thanks, judges.  What a bunch of maroons.  I'm sure Anoop appreciates their support...

Ace; of Matt. 
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on April 23, 2009, 11:46 hrs
Now look, let's not go suggesting I remember stuff that was popular 5,000 years ago.  That's the kind of thing Buff would say.  I am NOT older than dirt... I distinctly remember there being dirt already, as far back as I can remember.

I can just see some Neanderthal or Cro-Magnon singing away... "Hey, Grog; what you call that you're doing?"
Grog, "I call it 'Rock'."
"Ooh.  cool."

Ace; next time I go missing, they'll probably put out a Silver Alert.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on April 29, 2009, 12:15 hrs
I shall offer a prediction, and say someone is going home tonight.  If I had to bet, I'd suggest Matt.  Shoot, every week I hope it's Matt.  Just for wearing the stupid hat again: Matt. Especially as it didn't match the suit. 

You know, the combination of having the better ones left and having a genre they all seemed comfortable with makes it tough this week.  I can't say anyone stunk up the place; even the piano man was ok, but I thought that whole "drop it down a key..." was stupid as he could barely talk his way through most of the song, only to be able to hit the big crescendo at the end...  The rest were fine, and distinctive.  I think Kris has a bit of a higher voice than the other guys (except Adam, who personified "Swagger" as well as ultrasonic) and he may have come across as a bit "thinner" vocally.  The falsetto for him was a bit like yodeling, after awhile.  Even hearing them back, in the summary, made them all sound better than I even thought the first time.

Definitely, Anoop and Lil would be gone if they weren't already.

Ace; how safe was that.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Bill on April 29, 2009, 12:55 hrs
The competition has definitely moved up a notch or 2.  And I agree, Matt seems to be my choice too.

Bill
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on April 29, 2009, 18:43 hrs
Bottom three will be Allison, Chris and Matt with Matt getting the lowest number of votes.


Mark H; Tonight makes history when the same person gets voted off for a second time in the top 12 (13).
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on April 29, 2009, 21:18 hrs
I gotta figure most of the digs between Simon and Ryan are staged...  Just to cause drama.  But I can't imagine what they'd see in each other. 

I did swallow hard tonight, and thought I was having another Chris Daughtry moment when Adam entered the bottom two.  Obviously they got it right to ship Matt out, but criminy that's some drama I don't need.  Like J, I may well have tuned out for the rest.  Although Allison draws my attention 2nd most.

Seeing Taylor Hicks brought back just how lame he was/is.  That that guy won is probably the biggest scam ever on the show.  He'd be the opening act for the opening act for anyone else.

Next week is rock and roll, which offers probably the greatest reward/risk of any.  You can realllly blow it ("A Day In The Life" last year...) or really shine.  It'll be really hard from here on out.

Ace; Danny Gokey does "Iron Man"; Kris does "Mr. Roboto."  Adam Lambert with "Sympathy For The Devil."  Allison sings "Something By Heart."  Matt performs "In My Room."


Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on April 29, 2009, 22:44 hrs
I did not see Adam being in the bottom two, but I think most people didn't see it coming. We did get it right about Matt though.

Mark H; History was made - voted off twice in the top 10.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Bill on May 06, 2009, 07:56 hrs
Last night was a very enjoyable show.  I think using a rock band, instead of the regular one was a great idea, even if it was Slash. He impressed me as a Kiss wannabe. And if I could remember his name, I'd tell you which one.

All in, my choice to leave would have to be Kris.  I think he was way out of his element, and didn't show a lot of talent.

Bill
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Bill on May 06, 2009, 09:36 hrs
Boy oh boy are you showing your age.  I haven't seen 'clothes props' in a very long time.  And we used to call them 'clothes poles.'

Generally I think 'props' is a verbal gesture of respect. 

And, more to the point, your picks for 1 and 2 are spot on.

Bill
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Bill on May 06, 2009, 10:04 hrs
With the iron flat iron that was heated on the wood burning stove in the kitchen! 

With all respect to your granddaughter, I'm standing pat, no, not that Pat.

Bill
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Bill on May 06, 2009, 10:15 hrs
Your picks for winners.  Not being a strong risk taker, I wouldn't go out on the limb and actually make a selection myself!

Bill;hard to be wrong if....
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on May 06, 2009, 10:27 hrs
"Dream On! Dream On! Dream On! Aaaacccccckkkkkkarrrrrggghhhheekchoke" Danny Gokey

I thought having Slash (Saul...) involved was nice, even if he didn't perform for last night's event.  With the skills of the other two house guitarists he wasn't needed.  

It was another night of "How Dumb A Song Can I Pick"...  Going with a Beatles number that doesn't actually require singing and the back-catalog of Janis Joplin was the usual miscue.  And for Danny to tackle a tune that is soooo intertwined with a single artist/voice (kinda like when the women try Whitney) he was pretty much doomed as waaay out of his element.  Slash said he could be brilliant or horrific and in losing his voice completely (and turning his back on everyone/ending it right then and there) he proved horrific is in his wheelhouse.

Kris was bland, but did hold his own in duet with Danny.  I thought they were nicely balanced and each held up his end.  "Come Together" has absolutely no vocal measure, as is proved by Steven Tyler/Aerosmith's being pretty much a carbon copy of the Beatles.  The thing is all instrumentation, and you don't sing it at all.  That he was almost going to do "Revolution" (?) and Allison was thinking of trying Grace Slick proves their heads aren't in it, as neither was going to gain from either attempt.  That their "other choice" was just as dumb is troubling.  

Although Kris didn't add much, I'd put the badness of Gokey above him for my vote for removal tonight.  Should be an either/or with Adam and Allison sailing along like a Led Zeppelin.

Ace; tonight's Daughtry.  What a step up from Taylor Hicks, or Swift.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on May 07, 2009, 07:47 hrs
"Cry!  Cry!  Cry!  Waaah!  Boohoo..." Allison Iraheta

Well, I guess if you really want to copy somebody else's singing and song you can wind up where they are professionally at this point in time.  A strange year with the girl's demise, and the end of 3 Men And A Baby.  Definitely a spot-on Joplin imitation, although that's probably as commendable as singing like Bob Dylan or Joe Cocker.  I mean, what's the point?  She's possibly asking the same question right now. 

I thought Daughtry (the guy/band) was a'ight.  Gwen Stefani gives me the willies, though, with that stupid sing-songy atonal style.  I mean, they can sound in tune and catchy but also just grating and bothersome.  Last night was grated and annoying to me. 

And holy moley, what a prescient prediction of Saul Hudson's actual appearance by JA last night; good one.  And in that, again I thought Kris sounded good in comparison to his peers.

Ace; I wish school was out for the summer.




Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Bill on May 07, 2009, 08:05 hrs
I was a bit shocked though with the voting conclusions.  It would be really interesting, at least for me, to see the age demographics of the 64 million.  Joplin, like Sinatra, Martin and Welk all have an appeal to brackets that are not voters, IMO.  Maybe an obvious point.

Hudson's performance was enjoyable but his non-playing persona still reminds me of Gene Simmons.

Bill
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on May 07, 2009, 08:19 hrs
You mean Chaim Witz?  They both have a lot of chutzpah... Oy, what a band they could have made.

Ace; I had to look up half of that.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Bill on May 07, 2009, 08:56 hrs
He would have made one heck of a Rabbi, too!

Bill
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on May 07, 2009, 10:17 hrs
Saul is definitely better than Stanley Harvey Eisen....

Ace; where's the end of this thing.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on May 09, 2009, 10:34 hrs
Yeah; stupid kids.  I go to bed at 9:30 sometimes.  I'd agree with 8:00 primetime starts.  I'm usually dozing during the 2nd half of Fringe, after.  You know what really gets my goat, as a Cub fan would say, are major college sporting events with a 9:00 kick/tip off like the BCS final or NCAA basketball conclusion. 

Idol gets ugly now, with the fru-fru padding and add-ons.  And typically is going to run out of airtime right at the climactic moment where they rush the announcement and confetti fills the air.  And Paula's head.  I wish they could go a year with just Kara and Simon and Randy, with Paula nursing her addiction off screen.  But I gotta figure as busy and filthy stinking wealthy as Simon is I sure wouldnt expect him to jet back and forth across the pond to keep his fingers in two pots of gold simultaneously.  Heck, if I didn't have to work I wouldn't, so why would he.

If it was up to him, he'd probably have Susan Boyle join the top 3 guys. 

Ace; next: Bo Bice and Kelly Pickler sing the Theme From Hee-Haw

Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on May 13, 2009, 10:29 hrs
Here's hoping for a non-shocking perfectly sensible vote-off tonight.  I appreciate Simon's admonition to not presume Adam has free sailing into the finale.  Shoot, I hope he has clear passage right to the trophy itself...  I'll tell ya, if it's Danny and Kris at the end they may as well show re-runs of "Law and Order: SUV" or "So You Think You Can Dance Like Some Celebrity." 

I still get chills from Adam's wail songs; he's something else.  I dearly love Terence Trent D'Arby and own one more of his CDs (3) than I do Paula's (2).  But "Dance Sister" wouldn't have been my pick either, from the Hardline CD.  Gokey tends toward simple repetitive tunes as it is that don't challenge his range, so didn't need to feed him one to do...  I thought "You Are So Beautiful" was a classic pick, but geez louise it's like he did about 1/3 of the song... I didn't get the "too soft" straining opening with the shouted solo (and no progression of the song itself).

Kris really went nowhere; doing two "current" fairly tuneless entries didn't help.  First was dull but pleasant, second was like about 100 others and one of those where he seems more concerned with the guitar part than the singing.  He's ok on those, but they really don't mean anything to me.  A very amateurish song, and not worth the effort.  What he does do uniquely wasn't, last night.

I always hoped Adam would do "Crying" by Roy Orbison, but not "Crying" by Joplin, so I guess "Crying" by Aerosmith was ok.  The U2 thing was ok, but that one didn't exactly push the window (although I guess outsinging Bono isn't that tough). 

If Adam is the bottom feeder I hope they invent one more save...

Ace; Jordin Sparks tonight.. talk about the Idol Hall of Fame.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on May 13, 2009, 11:39 hrs
I was just talking to someone who met Bono and the Edge after the U2 concert here (does anyone use their real name..?), and she said "they look really old."  I said "they ARE really old..."  Geez criminy, we listened to "Train Kept a Rollin'" by Aerosmith at the Pizza Keg while in college.  I've never been a passionate fan of either, but like them ok.  Mostly the older stuff of old people.

Ace; it's hard to find anyone older who's alive.  Although I do like the music of a lot of dead people.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on May 13, 2009, 12:18 hrs
Jethro Tull did "Thick As a Brick Yard."  That could go on "Progressive Night on Idol" where contestants sing 30 minute or so album-side long tunes of that genre ("Close To The Edge", "Tubular Bells", "1983 A Merman I Should Hope To Be", any live Cream). Of course for Idol they'll edit it down to a 2 minute Cliff's Notes version.

Ace; we be jammin'.  If I enter Scuzzy's back yard he be shootin'.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: scuzzy on May 13, 2009, 14:56 hrs
Only if you enter my backyard.

Scuzzy; I'll make you fodder for my front yard.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on May 13, 2009, 15:05 hrs
Look, leave my fodder out of this.  And my mudder.  You know, Mine That Bird is quite a mudder.  His fodder was a mudder... his mudder was a mudder.

I should write a song as a sequel:  "The Sheriff Shot Me; and Also His Deputy."

Ace; I'm not going anywhere near CO.  They probably still have snow.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: scuzzy on May 13, 2009, 16:01 hrs
You're obviously upset because I beat you to taking this to page 5.

And let's not talk about being strangled by the wishes of pater, or hoping for the arms of mater.

Scuzzy; I pity the fool.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on May 13, 2009, 16:26 hrs
If Ace was in my backyard, I would think he would get lost in the woods. I would then have to call Scuzzy to launch a search and rescue operation to fine Ace since the normal channels in WV are tied up with flood relief.

As to Idol, I think Danny will go home tonight. That is my prediction and I am sticking to it.

Mark H; Why did I get addicted to another season of idol????
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: scuzzy on May 13, 2009, 22:46 hrs
Quote from: Mark H on May 13, 2009, 16:26 hrs
If Ace was in my backyard, I would think he would get lost in the woods. I would then have to call Scuzzy to launch a search and rescue operation to fine Ace since the normal channels in WV are tied up with flood relief.

I will be more than happy to fine Ace for going in the woods.

Scuzzy; give me his address and I'll send the citation.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on May 14, 2009, 08:55 hrs
Well, if you're going to fine me instead of find me first you'll have to find me.  Good thing you don't have my

oh. shoot.  dangit.  alright; I'll check the mailbox.  There goes my stimulus bonus.

I felt Gokey was the favorite when it first started.. I really thought he had a unique and expressive voice and manner.  And, naturally, the sympathy vote as a widower.  But like the Aussie last year he just never seemed to step up and have a magic moment, and last night's goodbye was a good example.  He starts the song breathy and way soft, then basically loses the song for that weird takeoff "You are so... ooh baby beautiful yeah baby hey hey woohoo hubbahubba weeee ladida" thing. Criminy, he didn't even finish one verse of it. 

I don't feel any particular passion for Kris but I respect him as consistent, professional, smooth, clever and easy to listen to and watch.  I guess kind of like David A. last year; can't get really excited about him but he's always "on".  The only embarrassing moment was that stupid butchering of the Eagles tune while "surrounded by girls" and hip hopping around.  Danny has had a few embarrassing (and lame) moments, and that gawshawful ending to "Dream On" has to be a YouTube favorite for years.

Seeing Jordin Sparks begs the question "Geez, what happened to Blake Lewis"... what an absolutely waste (waist) of time.  Lousy pointless one-line song (repeat this, over and over, as we think it was clever) with no memorable anything and she both looks and sounds lousy.  There are probably 20,000,000 fat teenage girls that can do what she does.

I sincerely hope Adam knocks it out of the park next week.  I hope they've been saving David Cook for the final show, but what with his brother and all I don't know if he's in the mood at this time.  If Kris wins it could be the big yawn that would unravel the show completely...  The "off" years (Sparks, Taylor Hicks, Ruben, Febreze) are enough to lose momentum and question any relevance it might have anyway.  Adam at least would be attention-getting and someone like nothing ever seen/heard before. 

Ace; Kris could probably sing kid's songs and be the new Raffi or Charlie Harper.

ooh ooh; PS too: Katy Perry finally was able to out-butcher any other modern artist and claim the "my gosh, can anything be more stupid and pointless and irritating and amateurish and worse fitting than this person doing anything on a stage" from Taylor Swift and Gwen Stefani and anyone else you can think of that makes you want to not just turn off the tv but kick it hard and often too.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on May 14, 2009, 09:52 hrs
Streaking was in vogue when I was at Purdue.  Only thing I ever saw was a naked guy running toward me.  Which I appreciated as much as Scuzzy probably did; wish I had been armed then.

I once saw a Chevy Citation do a 360 just on wet pavement in an intersection:  The X cars were the beginning of the end.  Can't wait to buy a Chinese Chevy... boy howdy. 

I think anyone who votes probably shouldn't be, too.  We haven't done that for years, usually because you can't get through anyway. 

Ace; as a kid, when my grandfather's cat would perch by the edge of the goldfish pond I'd lob a rock in over his head...

Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on May 14, 2009, 09:56 hrs
Quote from: JA on May 14, 2009, 09:27 hrs
OK, so check it out, Dawgs.
With 8 million votes, the spread between 1 and 2 was 1 million, Ryan said.

Actually, it was a spread of 1 million out of 88 million votes. I think Chris will get the majority of Danny's votes since they are more similar than either one is to Adam. I think for Adam to win, it will take a bunch of new voters who haven't been voting. In my opinion, Adam should win, but that doesn't always translate to votes (Daughtry).

Mark H
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on May 14, 2009, 12:21 hrs
Ok, I'll call in.  I'll vote for J.  One down, 87,999,999 to go.  Go tell your friends.  I would, but I don't have any.

I have no idea what his singing voice is, but he's gotta be better than Katy Perry.  He's probably kissed a girl and liked it, too, which makes a lot more sense coming from him than her.  Plus, with his fear of decibels, at least he's not going to sing loudly.  I think that's helpful for people who don't sing well, as a rule.

Actually, I bet they don't even count votes on Idol.  The judges probably play paper-scissors-rock-lizard-Spock after each round to choose whom to send home.

Ace; Ryan would play lizard.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on May 14, 2009, 16:55 hrs
Katy Perry was horrible and her outfit was much too revealing for prime time television. I kissed a girl and I liked it, so I married her. I hope the lineup of singers is better for next week's results show than it was for this week. Good grief! At least Jordon Sparks sang better than Katy Perry.

Mark H; I think Chris gets more of Danny's votes than Adam.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on May 14, 2009, 19:51 hrs
"JIMMIE HENDRICKS?"??!!?  What is wrong with you.. geez louise: Jimi Hendrix.  James Marshall Hendrix.  Of which Marshall happens to be the name of Jim Marshall, whom built the amplifiers of which both are known. 

My folks worked with Ron Como at Bendix.  Perry was smooth.  I was reading where Carlos did acid right before Woodstock, which he regretted pretty much immediately. He said he was making those faces during Soul Sacrifice in the movie due to his effort in trying to wrestle his guitar neck, which pretty much was becoming this writhing snake...  and trying to actually play in tune and survive it all. 

Ace: Kris is smooth.  Katy Perry is atonal. 
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on May 18, 2009, 21:23 hrs
Of the below four judges, who needs to go?

Kara
Paula
Randy
Simon

My vote is for Kara!

Mark H; There was a television comedy called "Three's Company," so what gives Fox the right to have 4 judges instead of three?
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Bill on May 19, 2009, 07:17 hrs
I agree with both of you.  Kara doesn't seem to mesh well with the rest.  And, for that reason, if there is a reduction to 3, it will probably be Paula.

The other side of this issue is that being a judge is a long, seemingly endless process when one considers talent selection from the begininng.  One, or more of them, may simply not want to go through it again.

Bill
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on May 19, 2009, 14:52 hrs
Paula. Kara. Randy.
Not Simon.

Honestly, Paula isn't home and the lights are out and she's pretty gone most nights anyway.  Kara is "gushing" but not particularly worthwhile.  She seems to actually have some credentials, but not that you'd know listening to her... (and her trying to outsing an early entrant was just pointless).  I'm actually tired of Randy's booing Simon on the introductions every week, and how he hedges things ("pitchy").  Plus, his main claim to fame is playing bass with Journey, and I'd just like to know where Ross Vallory was during that excursion.

I heard Simon's ok with next year, but the year after is sketchy.  Really, I don't think I'd bother if there wasn't at least someone objective on it.  And although he's inconsistent, he's generally on target.

Get rid of the other three and replace them with Chef Gordon Ramsey.  He and Simon in stereo ought to break anyone down into tears.  Maybe Axl Rose; there's a guy who can predict careers that can go off track.  Possibly that guy from Milli Vanilli; I think one of them is dead, unless he had someone else be dead for him.  I like that tall British judge from "So You Think You Can Dance."  I think British judges are best, just because they can sound more belittling and snooty, and more impressive.  I suppose Donald Trump and his sycophantic children could do the show.. although they'd just agree with him. 

"Danny Gokey... You're Fired!"
Ace; that could be a'ight.





Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on May 19, 2009, 23:46 hrs
I think Carry Underwood should win tonight. She sounded better than either of the other two and looks a whole lot better.

Who here thinks Kara's song was horrible besides me?

Mark H; Neither singer liked singing Kara's song in my opinion.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on May 20, 2009, 08:39 hrs
Carrie Underwood is a'ight, too. For a country/pop girl she's really good.

I thought Adam made Kara's song sound good.. it wasn't much, but those commemorative songs never are.  I thought the judge's consensus on Kris was "Atta boy... you should be proud to wind up in 2nd place this year."  His initial tune was great, and I think he got stuck with a dumb selection on the 2nd and of course the 3rd.  He's good, but nobody's as good as Adam.  He's stunning.

Ace; stunned. Like "tased."
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on May 20, 2009, 23:02 hrs
In reply #132, I was correct in predicting Chris to win by getting more of Danny's votes.

How did you like Kara making Katrina mad by coming out and singing?

What group or guest artist did you like the best tonight. I think Lionel was the best sounding guest artist.

Mark H; Kara's bikini shot sure didn't last very long!
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on May 21, 2009, 07:22 hrs
As with preemptive wars and GM and Chrysler's take on making but not selling autos, America got it wrong once again.  So my general mood is a shrug and a "who cares" and "nothing on Idol matters, and what if it did.."

First off, Kris got most of Danny's votes.  Secondly, Rod Stewart was really Greg Norman in a wig.  And why he'd sing "Maggie May" per his youthful days is beyond me.  Well, "croak." 

Lionel Ritchie never sounded like much to me so he hasn't lost it...  Kiss is wearing larger body armor, and matched Queen Latifah in support undergarments to try to hold things in.  And their heels outdid the other girls.

If Queen (both of them) joined the Who (both of them) they'd almost have a whole band.  But still no bass player.  Maybe Randy could fill in.

And Fergie ties Gwen Stefani and Katy Perry for Most Gawshawful Drivel and Irritating Presence Award.  The Black Eyed Peas did one decent song, and stopped there.

Kris knew who won, Simon knew who one, but as long as you let anyone voice an opinion they'll get it wrong.  I can see where Kris will be "popular", but that's like voting for "rubber" as "best material to make a rubber band, out of."

Ace; or "vanilla" for "favorite ice cream."







Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Bill on May 21, 2009, 07:36 hrs
Well thank you, you skipped the one artist I have an opinion about (except Stewart who acted as if some one did some serious arm twisting to make him show up).  Santana was probably the smartest performer last night, he didn't sing, but the guitar sounded terrific.

Bill
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on May 21, 2009, 09:43 hrs
Santana was alright.  I felt sorry for him that no one was making eye contact or connecting with him.. just circling and singing along.  He seemed very alone in a crowd.  Made sense to do a medley; that's really what I couldn't get with Rod, by just doing the one (whole..) old tune.  He sorta looks like what Barry Manilow will, eventually.

But hey: Brian May was also really on top of his game.  Maybe he and Santana could've just done a duet.  I do like Roger Taylor, too. 

Santana definitely outplayed Paul Stanley and the "new" Ace. 

Ace; what a stupid name. Like "Kris."
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on May 21, 2009, 11:24 hrs
Well, I hate to disagree, but not really.  Carlos was looking around... He kept looking at "hatboy" the Piano Man when they started black magic woman, but Kalamazoozoozoo wouldn't look back.  Generally Santana isn't so much humble as : spaced out metaphysical cosmic not of this world.  But he can play, and really not anything like anyone else.  He's a very spiritual guy, and I think he was definitely looking to "connect" with the other performers but putting out on that island just disconnected him.  Now, if he had giant shoes and a lot of flash pots and a wig and some cool makeup, then...

Told you Chaim Witz and Stanley Eisen would make names of themselves... I hope there are more rock shows, like the Supernova series, since a Rocker will never win Idol and that's a shame.

Ace; and I was the first one to get "Kris" spelled right...

Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on May 24, 2009, 10:55 hrs
and This Just In:  Voting Discrepancies Reported for IDOL
Apparently ATT staff (a sponsor) attended Kris Parties and showed supporters how to "power vote" (i.e. cheat) to send 10x as many responses per call....  Sweet.  Jerks.  No such "support" was shown for Adam. 

I would believe that 5 law enforcement officers would look at 5 different people and see something.  You know, that whole tree in the eye thing is almost biblical, like in "get that dang plank out of your eye" and "don't let your left eye know what your right eye is doing" and also "if what you're looking at offends you, shoot it."

I got my eyes examined (I know: I should have had the whole head..).  They have this new retinal mapping device that throws the image of the inside of your eye onto a computer to examine.  Not something I'd want as a screensaver.

I think Idol's 15 minutes of fame is up...  I guess I'll watch to see if Adam ever does anything, and can't say I'd seek out any of the rest.

Ace; I hope Lambert doesn't wind up on Broadway in some remake of "Cabaret"...
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Mark H on May 28, 2009, 16:47 hrs
The votes at that party were less than the winning margin according to the news, but it is still wrong to do what happened at the party. I have been saying for years that AI needs to set up voting so there is only one vote per number per contestant. It should also be set so that a cell phone call or text message count as coming from the same number so you can't do both with the same cell phone.

Mark H; I bet Adam had more people calll for him, but Kris had more of the repeat voters.
Title: Re: Idol '09
Post by: Ace on June 01, 2009, 14:50 hrs
After watching way too much coverage of Susan Boyle, I am exhausted and feel the need to take a break from talent shows.  Even "Do You Think You Can Dance" tryouts make me feel tired.  Although I am so eager to watch the new season of "The Bachelorette" with OctoMom.  I think the title is going to be "Eight is Enough."

Here's an idea for a new show; have Madonna and Angelina Jolie compete to adopt some kid as a hybrid of "The Nanny" and "Survivor." 

Maybe a new show called "MVP"; have singers dance, dancers act and actors sing.  Plus, have them drive a semi on the ice roads of the Arctic.  I always enjoy watching someone try that. 

Ace; and have them dance/act/sing while going through the "Wipe Out" obstacle course and the muddy moat below.