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SLI and the FAMILY STONE
« on: Jan 14, 2008, 01:29 PM »
This is quasi-computer related, but not really a plea for advice or focused particularly, so I figured the rec room would be an ok place to expound.

I just finished Call Of Duty 4; Modern Warfare.  I installed it New Years, and have been diligently wasting working on it since.  OMG, as texters say, is it cool.  The detail, plot twists, range of missions and weaponry is absolutely stunning.  You shoot blow up rocket stinger bomb blast so many things so many ways it's just spectacular.  And, die a lot.  Some saves are spaced soooo far apart, and demand so much activity to get to, that it can be very frustrating at times wondering if you're ever going to move on as you go for a looong time and then die and are sent back to the beginning of that segment. 

As I have an SLI board but just the one GeForce 7600GT, I'm figuring to add a second and try the thing as designed.  There is a "SLI check" box on the video options.  I ran it at different depths, but mostly the "optimal" 800x600 mode.  The game did hang, momentarily, quite a bit... but then plow forward ok while looking great.  So I'm curious if 2 cards will goose it accordingly.  I've seen ratings that Oblivion also benefits greatly from SLI, so that's another I'm midway through and would pick up on with the 2 GPU arrangement.

Only hesitancy is that I'm only running a 450 watt power supply... and probably oughta check to see if I even have a hanging 6 pin video connector for the second card on the thing as apparently both really ought have a direct juice pipeline.  I would hate to install a new PSU but will if necessary... I hate doing that, because to me it's like trying to install an octopus.  And electric one, at that.  And redoing all those stupid connections just confuses me, more than usual.

Anyway, that's my news and plans.  Naturally, if anyone's done SLI lemme know.  I guess if I can do it I won't need to pop the SLI Balloon (thanks again Buff for linking that for me).  With my luck, I'll probably toast the thing anyway and wind up buying a used one from Scuzzy.  Or, I'll buy a new card from NewEgg or Tiger and then he'll offer me his for $20 or so.

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Re: SLI and the FAMILY STONE
« Reply #1 on: Jan 14, 2008, 04:51 PM »
I would think 450 watt should be enough, I've seen some 7600 series cards that don't require the 6 pin power connector.

Can you still get the same make and model number card of the one you have now, I think but am not exactly sure that you need the same make and model to do SLI properly. You may be further ahead by just going with a newer card.
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Re: SLI and the FAMILY STONE
« Reply #2 on: Jan 15, 2008, 01:08 AM »
You should test the PSU by placing the connectors across your tongue.

If you survive that test, send COD4 directly to me so that I can test it on my system for a few months or possibly years. I'll report back to you every once in a while (if I remember) and tell you of my progress. You'll only have to pay me the cost of shipping. Both ways.

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Heh, Ace said "goose." That's funny.

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Re: SLI and the FAMILY STONE
« Reply #3 on: Jan 15, 2008, 05:23 AM »
Yeah, I know.  What you said.  Both of you.

The card's a eVGA GeForce 7600GT (KO) 256MB GDDR3 PCI-E.  Which I figure if I get all that in the name of the new one oughta be a match, huh?  I saw New Egg has an open box one, and otherwise some bundled deal but no other special.  Tiger Direct has it, as well as through Amazon through Tiger. Circuit City is $30 more or so.  I'd like to wait till it hits "bottom" like I did back when I bought the VooDoo for my first machine, but then again I'd hate for them to disappear while I'm left holding
well, the one I've got.

Sounds encouraging on the PSU analysis Pat; thanks.  Mine's an Antec that came with the case, so it wasn't something I really scoped out back when.  I'll probably do my usual just buy the thing and then sit staring at the guts muttering "what the heck was I thinking..."

Ace; I hope Scuzzy doesn't have New Egg tied up like he did in December.
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 15, 2008, 03:11 PM »
Yeah, I know what you mean. I have been thinking on doing a minor upgrade on my socket A system, just a new video card and some ram. Funny thing is a gig of ram and a modest video card for that system is about 160$. For that same money you can get a new motherboard with on-board video, an AM2 processor and 2 gigs of ram for just a very few dollars more. Now that surely isn't the latest and the greatest but still it would still be faster than the socket A system.
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Re: SLI and the FAMILY STONE
« Reply #5 on: Jan 15, 2008, 03:21 PM »
Let me work on it; I guarantee you'll have a new system in no time. 

And you don't want no modest video card.. and you sure don't want some lame onboard video thingy.  You want megaVIDEOcard capabilities and ultra hot and noisy gaming capabilities, so when that RPG hits you you KNOW you been hit. 

Plus, I figure my resume will look better in SLI.  It oughta be way faster, plus have more depth and framerate and antialiasing and anaphalactic lighting and that stuff.

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« Reply #6 on: Jan 15, 2008, 04:50 PM »
Anyway, yes I think you're right if you wait till they bottom out they will be gone. I went ahead and ordered one of these video cards.

Since this is my other older system with the AGP there is really not the choice like with PCI-E right now but it should give it a nice boost over what I have now and I can keep using my older PATA drives. Most of the new motherboards right now only have the one PATA connection and this old Gigabyte board has 4 of those plus the 2 Sata connections and I'm just not ready to put it out to pasture.
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Re: SLI and the FAMILY STONE
« Reply #7 on: Jan 16, 2008, 02:16 AM »
Personally, I don't see the value of SLI, unless you have pots of money and buy both cards when they are still new tech.  Buying a second 7600GT now will probably give you a nice little performance boost for (maybe) a small investment.  However, you are still spending money on old technology.  You will probably find that investing a little more in something like a 8600GTS will give you the same or better performance boost and will also give you DX10 capability and it will last you longer.

On top of the above, you have already pointed out that you need to consider the additional power for a the extra card.  You also need to consider the extra noise that the additional card will produce and also the extra heat - does your case have sufficient cooling?

When you consider the points above, it is probably more sensible to forget SLI.  However, jesters are not really famous for being sensible so if you fancy playing with SLI, go for it.
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Re: SLI and the FAMILY STONE
« Reply #8 on: Jan 16, 2008, 05:57 AM »
Boy, are you right about the lack of sensibilities.  I'm astounded by how much I don't I am. 

You know, it just seems a waste to have gone with this kicky SLI mobo and not actually try it.  It'd be easier if the 7600 cards were $50 or $30 or free, naturally.  I appreciate the heat and noise factors.  It's running cool and quiet enough now, but who knows after, you know?  I do have some pots, and some money, so it shouldn't be that hard to put some in one and go from there. 

Plus, I hate having stuff that's now removed and unused.  Shoot, I've still got some old sticks of memory laying around, "in case" they could be useful. And an old video card from some previous vintage.  I guess I could drop them in a Goodwill box... Anyway, I think your advice on going with the 8600GTS is great Buff and I hope Scuzzy takes it to heart.  And then sends me his 7600GT card for free, or even at his exhorbitant shipping costs, to me.  That would be the ideal way to SLI my way into hotter and louder gaming.

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« Reply #9 on: Jan 16, 2008, 12:00 PM »
Get Scuzzy's card for free, or at least peanuts, then play with SLI.

Otherwise, sell your own 7600GT to some other shmuck (no offence) and put the money towards a newer card.

FYI, there are some interesting comparisons here http://magicboxlive.blogspot.com/2007/10/8600gts-vs-8600gt-vs-7600gt-full-review.html.  You can see that a 8600GTS will out-perform your humble 7600GT considerably.  It also out-performs the 7900GT, although it does consume more power.  I haven't seen any figures for 7600GTs in SLI but I doubt that they would be as good as the 8600GTS.

Another thing to consider is that not all games will benefit from SLI - they need to have nVidia provide a SLI driver for them first.  With the newer, more powerful graphics card you would see the benefit in everything.  You would also get hardware HD video decoding, if that's the bag you're into.

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Re: SLI and the FAMILY STONE
« Reply #10 on: Jan 16, 2008, 12:09 PM »
I don't mind when the empty slots call to me, as long as they're not in a casino...  I hate when the slots and everything sit silently while I hit the power switch and smell something burning.

I'll check out the comparison... I don't know any shmucks.  I suppose I could look for some on eBay.  Usually, I'm the shmuck. 

"Jester Shmuck."  That's a claim to fame.

On nVidia's site they gave Oblivion as one of the games that doubles in performance with SLI.  Didn't mention Call of Duty 4, but figure if the game options give you an SLI check box they must be figuring it will have an effect.  COD4 is the first one that hiccupped on me... and not badly but just sorta aggravating to freeze right when some bad guy jumps out at you... and wait for it to go live, so you can go dead.

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Re: SLI and the FAMILY STONE
« Reply #11 on: Jan 16, 2008, 07:07 PM »
I'm astounded by how much you don't you are, also. Whatever that means, since I don't speak ravioli. But I certainly hope there's a cure for it.

I agree with Buff for no reason other than to disagree with you. Plus, what he says makes sense since he's not a jester.

I think you should send your 7600GT to me. I have no need for it, but I'll be happy just knowing that you don't have it.

Scuzzy; I'm pretty sure you don't have it.
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Re: SLI and the FAMILY STONE
« Reply #12 on: Jan 18, 2008, 03:15 PM »
Well; I've got good news and stupid news.

First off, I ordered an EVGA 7600GT second card, from Amazon. There's a $15 rebate, which should help.  Amazing thing is, ordered yesterday and it arrived TODAY.  Normal "5-7 day free shipping" deal.

Now the stupid.  There was no SLI connector (bridge) with it.  Apparently, the Mobo mfg. is supposed to supply that.  And guess what?  No mobo ASUS SLI connector in the box, from Monarch. 

Now, there's a (slim)chance I've got one, hanging from the installed card, in the system.  But gotta figure I woulda noticed that and wondered why some cable was hanging and going nowhere, in the case.  So my suspicion is I don't got one.  Either Monarch, in their final malfeasance and collapse didn't bother to throw in all the hardware, or ASUS didn't have one supplied.

I did a NewEgg search, and only could locate a 3 way EVGA connector... And they played dumb to the whole notion of this being a seemingly useful, and not exactly high tech, device, that you'd think oughta be available in some standard configuration.   So no go, there.  Circuit City doesn't carry any such thing. Asus shows it as a ribbon cable, and the nVidia SLI site shows a T-shaped clip on thing.  I contacted Asus, which said "go to the estore and find it there."  Well, I found both, as well as a "long" one, but the regular two are out of stock.  Hoo.  Rah.   I'll call around to see if it exists in retail.  I did find a couple on eBay, which of course involved jacking up the price.

But, with my luck, it's a "special" thing that each mfg. will blame the other for not including.  I guess I'll find out if there's one running loose in the case.  But would like to have one, in hand, before I crack it open.

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« Reply #13 on: Jan 19, 2008, 06:57 PM »
Oh just try just bending a bit of wire across the SLI bridge contacts, I bet that would work.

May be..............

I have one that came with a gigabyte board, should (might?) work. Some cards and/or boards also need a retention bracket.

Too bad I just got home from your corner of Michiana, I could have dropped it off.

This Asus store has one of the longer bridge models as well as a retention bracket for sale, looks like most of the smaller bridges are out of stock though.

http://estore.asus.com/shop/search.asp
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Re: SLI and the FAMILY STONE
« Reply #14 on: Jan 20, 2008, 08:08 AM »
Well, way to go, you.  One of the local "We Sorta Service PC's, Maybe, But Not Much On Saturday" Shops also said they had a Gigabyte one and that I should bring in the mobo.  I'm sure.

You know, I also disremembered that this stupid Antec case has a plastic air duct chute that runs from the back across the PCI slots and extends over the CPU to serve as an exhaust pipe.  So you (well, "I") have to dismantle that contraption to even SEE the slots. 

I bought what looks to be the smaller flexible Asus strip on eBay.  I was going to just get the longer one from Asus (no further response from either their estore or CS) figuring it should work and I could just bend it back, although that might hit the dang exhaust chute too.  But when I clicked to "buy" I got a security warning that the site appeared to be suspect...(?!).  So just went back to eBay since I woulda haved to give Asus all my info, charge card, etc.  That, and the fact they pretty much stopped responding.

Will await arrival of this purchased thing.  Still got one more black plastic piece to knock off the back panel, as it's blocking the screw for a new card...

Acus; all this is a lot harder than actually installing one.
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Re: SLI and the FAMILY STONE
« Reply #15 on: Jan 20, 2008, 09:25 AM »
Is that a Sonota case? I bought one of those for one of my daughters and didn't even use the ducting as it interfered with the main power plug. Everything works fine without the duct anyway.

My main challenge lately is getting my KVM switch to work with my new keyboard and mouse wireless combo I bought early last December, I was going to just get a new KVM but then there is no guarantee that would work with this keyboard/mouse combo either. I guess it's mainly due to the funky way Logitech uses the one cord, two plug, USB adapter and their CS is no help as they only support direct connection to the case no extra external devices.

So, I now have two mouses and the one keyboard with three wireless adapters, the two mouses connected directly to each case/board and the keyboard connected to the KVM. This does work and I ended up having to buy another wireless adapter and a cheep mouse, but at least I can use both my systems with just the one keyboard and the two mouses.

Strangely enough the keyboard is recognized by the system as the keyboard it actually is and all the extra buttons work as they should and since the mouses are directly connected all those extra buttons work too. Eventually I'll just get another monitor and keyboard and make some room for another desk and then we can both have access to a computer at the same time. 
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Re: SLI and the FAMILY STONE
« Reply #16 on: Jan 20, 2008, 10:17 AM »
I too removed the ducts from two of my systems. Mostly they just got in the way, and I'm fairly certain that in one of the systems it was restricting air flow. You might consider removing it completely and monitor your temps for a little while. I'm betting that you won't notice an appreciable change.

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Re: SLI and the FAMILY STONE
« Reply #17 on: Jan 20, 2008, 10:48 AM »
You know, with all this computer talk lately, you guys oughta consider making this into some kinda computer forum.

Yeah, it's a Sonata.  I'm sure it would have bugged me to no end if I woulda put it together, and come to that...  There's a plastic exit funnel still on it, so I'll remove that.  Any chance of reinstalling the venting will depend on how easily it goes back...  I can see point for exhaust of the cpu fan up and out, and not back into the works, but this thing rides over and pretty much covers the PCI slots so would think the graphic cards are in a low-ceiling room with it on.  Temps seem the same as normal, without.  Haven't tried "gaming" without the tube, but wasn't going to until I got this dang card in anyway.

I've still got the trackball in a drawer, that I used to have with a mouse.  And do have a joystick, again.  But never did two mouses.  USB sure makes things easier that going direct into the back of the box. 

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« Reply #18 on: Jan 20, 2008, 11:00 AM »
Oh dear.  I hate to say I told you so but.....you wouldn't have had this trouble if you'd just gone for a new replacement card.  I dare say that once you've added all the costs and postage etc. together it will not work out much cheaper.

Still, I dare say that you'll learn from the experience and it won't be a total waste.

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« Reply #19 on: Jan 20, 2008, 02:16 PM »
Oh, dear, I dare say if I had bought that marginally improved stupid video card I would then be back to a single stupid video card and still have my now worthless stupid used video card plus no dang SLI performance hookup which was the point of the stupid SLI board in the first place and I'd be now waiting for this new model to plummet in price for some future time zone a year or two hence when I would finally be able to buy another one of the stupid things just to have my dang SLI, finally.

At which time I would've forgotten half of the twisted plot of Call of Duty 4 anyway, or quad cards would be all the rage by then, or I'd have to do without Merlot for the time between just to make up the difference and sooth my nerves.

So, thank you very much, after all is said and done I blame Monarch.  Which is easy, since they're dead.  Probably pinned in alcohol in a display case.  I still may find an SLI bridge duct taped inside something, in this Sonata, someday.  It wouldn't surprise me.  Or some kid of a past Monarch employee is wearing it for a retainer.

And I don't think you told me so.  I do not recall a poast reading "Ace, don't go and buy another of the same because you know you'll be out the SLI bridge anyway and Scuzzy could be kind and send you one but he won't and Pat probably has one that'll work but he'll offer it just after you go and buy one plus once you've got the card and the bridge is in the mail I'll be here to tell you so and say you could've just replaced everything else instead of the simple upgrade."  I tell ya, if it was my birthday you all would take the cake.

And,  :P it's still cheaper.  The rebate will cover the added connector thingy.  AND, Mr. KnowMerlot, if I had boughten the other better card by its lonesome I'd STILL BE OUT THE STUPID BRIDGE, ANYWAY. So it'd still be something I 'd have to buy.  Dangit.

Ace; I with Monarch would've closed before I ordered...

Ace; "I with Monarch"...? since when did I get a stupid lisp?  Criminy.  Buff will probably tell me he told me that, next.
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« Reply #20 on: Jan 20, 2008, 05:07 PM »
Oh if it was your birthday you would most likely not even tell anyone and then get put out because no one mentioned it anyway.

But yeah, you'll be the one to come to when it's time to give advice on how to SLI, if it works out alright for you I may even give it a go.

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« Reply #21 on: Jan 21, 2008, 04:23 AM »
Boy; you told me that, Buff told me this, Scuzzy woulda this and that.  You'd think I'd be smarter with all the great advice I get.

Well, ok, I suppose I should be.  Whose fault is that, huh?!

I do apologize for raising my emoticon at Buff, though.  I know he means well, but it's just sorta mean to point out stuff I woulda coulda shoulda, you know?  If I could guess right among varous options, I would have won the Case Game on Deal or No Deal by now... 

Who could predict what's the right move?  Sure, with hindsight, you can tell if your collar is out or that cowlick is settled down.  Or, if you missed a loop in back.  I mean, chances are, I'll get this bridge in a couple days from California and I'll get that stupid piece of exhaust pipe off the back panel and I'll get the new card to seat and I'll loop them together and won't even need to install drivers and it'll crank up and work great and I'll wade through Call of Duty 4 again (8) and life will be sweet.  What could go wrong...?

Well, sure, the bridge might not fit, if what he showed isn't it.  Or, I really struggle with the install.  Or, I get them configured and find that the heat's building up something fierce.  Or, that two of them tax my power supply and I have to replace that resident evil and go through the whole "how the heck does this thing even come out of here" "shoot, what do these connect to, now" "why do I have 3 left over..?".

Huh.

Alright, I'm keeping my fingers crossed.  As nimble as I am working in a pc case, it won't make much difference.  At least I have the solace of knowing, should anything NOT work to perfection, that a resident expert will be sure to point out
that he tolded me so.

Ace;  :D  I'm sure everything will work out fine.   :'( I sure hope it works out, fine.   ::)  dangit this better work.  Fine.
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« Reply #22 on: Jan 21, 2008, 04:28 AM »
No, I have to be honest, I didn't tell you about the lisp.  That one came out of nowhere.

And if you'd "boughten the other card by it's lonesome", you wouldn't need the stupid bridge.  Cake would be nice though.  With Merlot.

Let us know how you get on.  You'll know when it's running right - it's when the lights dim, the temperature rises and you can't hear much above the windy fan noise coming from your PC.

Seriously though, I hope it works out for you.  You can be the resident SLI "expert".  Maybe not though - you would likely then have to venture into other parts of the forum.  The techy bits that you aren't usually allowed in.  We'd lose track of you and have to follow the jingling sound to find you again.  Probably find the cat instead.

Buff; I digress.

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« Reply #23 on: Jan 21, 2008, 04:35 AM »
 I'm sure it will work out great.

I wonder if your motherboard is one of those that is x16 with the one card in the main slot but then is x8 and x8 in SLI mode? That is what my Asus manual shows for my M2N-SLI board.
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« Reply #24 on: Jan 21, 2008, 06:30 AM »
Ha! Buff!  Ha, I say! I did NOT tell you that!  I did not say "it's lonesome."  I said its lonesome.

I am not so daft that I would mistake the possessive with the contraction!  I am an Ex-English Major, after all.  I know the difference of being possessed, as compared to having contractions!

And, yeah Pat, I know about the knockdown.  I figure it's like one of those Honda engines, where it runs on half the cylinders to save gas.  Unless you push it, and then all bets are off.

And, may I add, like you could stop me, I have done a commendable job IN the dang techie sections, over the past year.  I sniffed out the bogus web virus hoax, and kept Pete from copying stuff illegally and getting arrested, and told somebody "antivirus are good" or something to that effect, and probably saved their system.  There were probably others, too.  Although some of them were just in retaliation to Scuzzy or somebody saying "Of course, Ace wouldn't do the right thing as he's an idiot" tagged onto some helpful advice, which would cause anyone to respond "Quit pointing out that I'm an idiot, dangit."

That, and having a speech impedidement, would cause anyone to clam up.  And Hey, Pat, if you've got the dang manual to go with the dang M2N-SLI (Deluxe?) board how come you don't got a dang Asus SLI bridge, huh?!  How come you got some dang bogus Gigabyte one!  Explain that, huh!

Ace; these guys are holding out on me.
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« Reply #25 on: Jan 21, 2008, 07:36 AM »
Good grief!  Thanks for correcting my grammar :-[  although I have no idea where that apostrophe came from.  I think it was added by the site, in the same way that it used to automatically add an A to post. 

And please don't mention contractions as the other half is expecting our first in April and she's starting to get really worried.

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« Reply #26 on: Jan 21, 2008, 07:54 AM »
The other half of what...?

Oh.  Alright.  April, huh?  My birthday used to be April 1 here, until it was roundly ignored and somebody left my cake out in the April showers and who has the recipe, you know?

I hope it's not April 1, just because people probably wouldn't believe it.  And don't worry about a thing.  As one who doesn't have kids and would know as much about childbirth as computers, it's easy for me to say "don't worry about a thing."  So I will.

"April" might do well, as a name.  Well, especially if "it" is a girl.  Although I'd bet you'd have one tough son, after a few years, if you named him April.

Sli is another possibility.  You could call him "Poaster"... That'd be different.  I was always fond of "Bob" just because it's easy to spell.

You know, I don't know if Buffalo Bob would be such a good idea though... Buffalo Bill?  That might be ok.

Ace; not Buffalo Chip... uh uh.

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« Reply #27 on: Jan 21, 2008, 10:53 AM »
Huh, you know it's not like I didn't make an offer of the one that I knew I would never use since I gave the Gigabyte board away as a gift to some one that would never need the bridge. But yeah, I do have the one that came with the Asus board but I just might want to use it and if I gave it away I might find myself searching on ebay for one or something like that.

And how was I supposed to know you would go out and buy one even though you probably knew I had one and would offer it up as an early birthday present.
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« Reply #28 on: Jan 21, 2008, 12:16 PM »
Ok; let me try to follow this latest told me so:  you offered the thing I wasn't looking for knowing full well you had the thing I was looking for since you figured it would be better to not offer what i need but rather what you didn't since if you had actually given me the thing I could use later on I might have to give it back, at the time you might actually feel like using it, if you did. 

I suppose at that point when I finally did resort to shopping eBay I'd find one and buy it.  Then.  Unlike now, when I did. 

You know, I'm just gonna wait for the one to arrive from California.  I figure at least that once Buff has his kid and he says whether it's a boy or girl I can say

See!  I told you so!

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« Reply #29 on: Jan 21, 2008, 01:24 PM »
Ok, so I'm really not a very nice person.

I should just go back a few poasts and once I see you've ordered one I should have said," Oh too bad you ordered one I have the one I got with my brand new board and I would like you to have it, but I see you just ordered one, darn."

And you know I even could have dropped it off again today as I was in the area. Actually all over the area, I have been on a quest for the impossible. I have been looking for a replacement light bulb for a customer since way before Christmas.  It's an odd sort of bulb, kind of a cross between an incandescent and florescent, long and thin but clear glass, the pins are not on the end but on the side. Every time I went into a place they just said never seen anything like it. So, today, since I had the day off, I went out looking. I started out in Roseland and stopped in at every electric parts and lighting store until I finally found a place way the heck out on Miami that had two frosted ones, but I needed four clear ones. They are going to order me the clear ones at 40$ each. So if you ever need a light bulb, I can help.
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